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131. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Herr Bert

Taken out of the context, a picture of the prophet depicted as a terrorist is not funny, but why can't it be funny when you see it in the context how it was meant?

Kinda difficult to do, in some countries, where the government censors all information, it doesnt want people to see. Not that Turkey is one of those countries. Not completely, anyway.;)

well, why TVs censoring fat food or cigarette commercials?

if a society think that something is harmful and the majority agree on it, then it become censored, that's all ;)

132. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

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Because they call them gerillas, they use war word instead of terrorism to describe how they fight against Turkey.

I think the word gurilla, in this context, actually means the same as terrorrist. ????
It is certainly, not a more flattering or respectable word, than terrorist.;)

noo!
gerilla just fight against army, or bombs empty metro stations etc..

terror is against civilians.

133. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

In a couple of years ago, Police has a great authorization for riots and none of them could make riots in cities. However, after EU regulation laws, managing riots become really hard for us because of the limited authority of police forces.

What methods, would the police in Turkey like to use, to control riots?
Which of these methods, will the EU not allow?

EU makes custody periods shorter etc..
and makes it pretty hard to search suspect's clothing, or suspect's property. till the police get the permission from prosecutor it becomes too late.

134. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

Then how they're questioning Turkey's laws like death penalty, article 301 etc.?

What do u think, about the death penalty, in Turkey, Stuthkfl?
I think one big problem with the existance of the death penalty, is that different countries, have different crimes, that they apply it for. I think this makes it very unfair. In some countries, I think it is applied, for crimes that I would not consider so serious. In some countries people dont even get a fair trial, in my opinion. ;)

I support death penalty' use for terror criminals or anarchic organizations leader teams; unless they come and be surrended by themselves in regret. and unless they help to security forces to fight against that ilegal organization giving necessary information etc.

don't worry, if you put death penalty, less crime will be commited ;)
if you're such a big country with many rebellious in it, such as US or China it's mandatory. Who knows, maybe Sarkozy force EU to put it back, with his strict policies against immigrants..

135. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

You're holding a debate for homosexualism we're holding a debate for terrorism; yours is pretty unusual for us too, believe me

Huh??
No, we are all talking about terrorism. At least on this thread, as far as I have read.
What do u mean, that ours is pretty usual, for u too? Are u saying, that if we were having a discussion, about homosexuality, it would be unusual to u(and when u say us, do u mean everybody in Turkey, or who?) too? Do u not talk, about homosexuality, in Turkey? There are homosexuals there, as far as I know. They are also subjected to some treatment, which is critisized, by human rights organizations. ;)

yes at least 80% I guess see homosexualism as an illness. which makes it unusual of course... people use word of gay to swear somebody

136. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

That's the double standart, and the point where EU has failed on Turkish People's eyes.

Failed??????!!!!!!!
It is Turkey who is applying to join the EU, not visa versa.;)

we weren't applying not to get some economical help or capital investment etc. we were joining hoping mutual relationships.

EU will get a huge population of cheap workforce, with a 70 million head bazaar. Will expand its boundaries till Iraq and Iran. Will get one of the most strategic part of the world, bosphorus which is always a good card against Russia. will get one of the most populated and modernised army of the world. will get the fastest developing country of OECD...

EU needs us as well. Problem is, Turkish governments can't put a strong policy and support Turkey's interests enough..

137. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

Yes I've heard that many Turkish companies has suspended their relations with Danish companies. Just 1 month before, one of my friend has cancelled their contract with a Danish company and made a new contract with Chinese one.

Sigh!!!!!
Does Turkey have better relations, with a torture dictatorship, than it does with the EU? That is sad sad sad, that u cannot see what is wrong with that.
I am even holding out hopes, that the EU and US industries will stop trading with countires like China. I am hoping our governments will put pressure on them. But, even if that does happen, I suppose there will be industries, in less ethical countries, which will take our places. It is a sad world we live in.

People find China more ethical than Denmark ;) in Turkey

138. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

And if the religion and population is a problem for EU, why they're continue to negotiate? No, we can't kill the half of nation nor change our religion because of EU

I dont think changing your religion would be a requirement for the EU. But I presume u are joking?;)

sure!

139. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

Many people has asked to me like, "is it mandatory to wear a scarf, headscarf in Turkey? is it legal to have more than one wife" etc... that was pretty interesting because they're against something that they don't know actually!!

What is it, that u think those people do not know, about the wearing of head scarfs, and polygamy?;)

I dunno!

140. Posted by stuthkfl (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting stuthkfl

And Police Brutality was one of the biggest issue which EU criticize Turkey on it. However, the first riot of Copenhagen, ungdomshuset riots has shown that; Danish Police has used much much more brutality against protestors than the Turkish Police had used against PKK sympathizers.

Which first riot, in Copenhagen?
Which year did it take place?
Who was rioting?;)

see this http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34201