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31. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

My brother-in-law is just as dedicated to the party. In his mind, CNN is the only reliable news source and all others are run by the liberal media (not sure what that really means...) who manipulate the truth for their own benefit.

When elections are comming up, in Ireland, my father wont even buy the news paper, that favours any other parties, besides his. And we are not allowed, to have the advertising from the other parties, in their house.

32. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

It depends on the conditions. In my family it is normal to have discussions about everything, but the simple rule is, that you have to provide more then just an opinion, you have to be able to tell why you have this opinion. If you say, that something is good or wrong, tell why you think that.

We talk about everything here, too. Me and my boyfriend, that is. My daughter is too young. One of us often does move towards the others opinion, because of more information and sometimes a sudden feeling of enlightenment. We are both anti war and pro human rights develpment around the world. I moved to my boyfriends ideas about the death penalty. He moved towards my opinions about womens issues. Well, these are just 2 examples. We have more opinions, than those. This was not because of one discussion. This was becasue of continuous discussions about politics, and an openess to listening to each other and examining all new information available. If we get angry, we cool off, for a while. Then we consider what exactly caused the anger. It is usually very little to do with the actual topic under discussion.;)

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 29, 2007, at 1:08 AM by Mel. ]

33. Posted by Fun Bobby (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

'He moved towards my opinions about womens issues'

Well of course he did. The idea of not having sex for quite some time was probably praying on his mind!!!

34. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Fun Bobby

'He moved towards my opinions about womens issues'

Well of course he did. The idea of not having sex for quite some time was probably praying on his mind!!!

I guess it all depends on who it was he was not going to be getting sex from.

35. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

We are both anti war and pro human rights develpment around the world.

Then you're no different from 99.9% of the rest of the world's population. Do you also breath?

36. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 9y

Quoting james

As I said before, it's not worth having these sorts of discussions.

You decribe a situation in which one of the persons in not willing to listen, and in that situation you are right. But between two person who are willing to listen to eachother, and are using facts to back up their opinion, discussion can be very worthwhile.

37. Posted by HafJafMark (Respected Member 291 posts) 9y

I think part of the problem lies where people affiliate themselves to a particular party, and follow that party as you would a football team.

I know a few people who where vehmently against the war in Iraq, went on marches and everything, and where life long labour supporters. When the vote came round again, they still voted labour.

The point being that the actions of the politicians take less importance than their allegiance to the party.

If you are going to get into political debate, you must be prepared to be proved wrong, and admit it if you are. Just as your opponent must do the same.

I find the more you learn about politics, the less sure you are about everything.

Theres a good quote (not sure who said it) -
Why is it that the idiots are all so sure of themselves, yet the wise so full of doubt?

38. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

Quoting james

As I said before, it's not worth having these sorts of discussions.

You decribe a situation in which one of the persons in not willing to listen, and in that situation you are right. But between two person who are willing to listen to eachother, and are using facts to back up their opinion, discussion can be very worthwhile.

Yes, when we are discussing simple topics that people don't particularly care about. But very, very rarely does it happen with religion and politics when people from completely different points of view try to talk.

39. Posted by Fun Bobby (Budding Member 115 posts) 9y

I like to keep the serious topics of religion and politics for my drunken discussions / arguments. They're a lot of fun!!

40. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Fun Bobby

'He moved towards my opinions about womens issues'

Well of course he did. The idea of not having sex for quite some time was probably praying on his mind!!!


I suppose I should be offended, but the idea of me doing something like using sex as a bargining thing. It is just so beyond, what I think is healthy behaviour, in a relationship.