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11. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 12y

It's in table 654 (Zaragoza - Barcelona) which shows Madrid-Barca services not using the new high speed line.

Even in you look at table 659 (where i'm assuming you found the Barcelona - Cerbere info) if you look at the footnotes, It should say something like (Costa Brava Madrid-Cerbere)

In addition, you can always check online at the German railways TT site (English version)

Anymore problems, just ask.

12. Posted by Johnsog123 (Budding Member 6 posts) 12y

Oh cool, I see it, thanks! I'm going to have to look a bit more in depth when searching for trains from now on.

13. Posted by mtlchica (Respected Member 922 posts) 12y

Rich: lol ok, a correction to my posting - by dollars I meant euros. I was typing fast and just wanting plain thinking. lol, never drink and type

And just to clarify: what's the difference between couchette and sleeper? We had the same type of "sleep cabin" all through our trip last year and it was called both.

Katie ;)

14. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 12y

Johnsog123 - No problem. If you have any further problems/queries etc, just let me know. Have fun with your planning.

Katie - No, no. You've got that wrong. Never type WITHOUT a drink...

As for Couchettes v Sleepers:
A Couchette cabin is a normal compartment with fold down beds. In virtiually all of Europe, they are 6 person and have 4 fold bunks which - with the 2 seats converted - gives you 6 bunk beds. You get given a blanket and a pillow and you sleep in your day clothes. Male & female share compartments, as do complete strangers. They are what most people use in Europe.

A sleeper is like a proper bedroom. They are normally 2 bed (sometimes just one, and on some hotel trains even a couple with a double bed), and are normally booked by a couple/group etc who already know each other. If not, they are shared on a same sex basis. You tend to have 2 beds again (but more permanent, and larger), plus small table/chair, sink (most cases), wardrobe etc, and give you privacy so you can undress and do whatever. They often have higher standard shower/wash cubicles at the ends of the carriage, and in most cases, even have a waiter service for breakfast etc, and a member of staff who comes and helps you when a buzzer is pressed. You get 1st and 2nd class, and both are consideably more expensive (with no accom discount using a pass). They tend to be used by older/business travellers, plus sometimes families, those with disabilities or those with pets. The first class ones, especially on the new hotel trains are fairly luxurious - TV/DVD player, coffee making equipt etc


15. Posted by mtlchica (Respected Member 922 posts) 12y

Rich: Oh we definately had couchettes then. They were quite pricey too. We even got screwed over in Italy price-wise...perhaps they didn't like us very much :( ;)


16. Posted by mtlchica (Respected Member 922 posts) 12y

And thanks!

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