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41. Posted by opospa (Travel Guru 1836 posts) 9y

erm,...mind me asking a silly questions?
what are the jobs of these moderators and admins?!!

42. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 9y

Quoting mikeyBoab

Hey, I never thought of that. By that reasoning I should hold the rank of "Super Executive Admin Moderator Guru"

Nah... Have you forgotten the rank that we moderators gave you?

Off-Topic Guru

It's still pending approval from the admins. I think it would be reflected in the next site update.

43. Posted by opospa (Travel Guru 1836 posts) 9y

Quoting Hien

Quoting mikeyBoab

Hey, I never thought of that. By that reasoning I should hold the rank of "Super Executive Admin Moderator Guru"

Nah... Have you forgotten the rank that we moderators gave you?

Off-Topic Guru

It's still pending approval from the admins. I think it would be reflected in the next site update.

Off-Topic Guru!!!!
And also a Greeting Guru!!!!
Suits mikeyBoab!

44. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting opospa

erm,...mind me asking a silly questions?
what are the jobs of these moderators and admins?!!

The Administrators are the owners and TP's Overlords (Damms Vaders).

Each Moderator is in charge of specific forums. They monitor those forums for spam, misplaced threads, inflammatory responses, etc. They have the ability to edit and delete in accordance with the forum rules. They also get to explain the errors of member's ways if they should cross the line of appropriate behavior. Basically - we are the janitors that clean up after everyone.

I think Hien posted this link a bit further back, but here is the list of Mods and their forums. It also shows the individuals who are Respected Members and Travel Gurus.

45. Posted by opospa (Travel Guru 1836 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting opospa

erm,...mind me asking a silly questions?
what are the jobs of these moderators and admins?!!

The Administrators are the owners and TP's Overlords (Damms Vaders).

Each Moderator is in charge of specific forums. They monitor those forums for spam, misplaced threads, inflammatory responses, etc. They have the ability to edit and delete in accordance with the forum rules. They also get to explain the errors of member's ways if they should cross the line of appropriate behavior. Basically - we are the janitors that clean up after everyone.

I think Hien posted this link a bit further back, but here is the list of Mods and their forums. It also shows the individuals who are Respected Members and Travel Gurus.

Thanks Isadora!!

46. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 9y

I think Hien posted this link a bit further back, but here is the list of Mods and their forums. It also shows the individuals who are Respected Members and Travel Gurus.

Having looked at the link, am i being blind or is the Travel Equiptment forum currently Moderator-less?

BTW, amorphis

Btw, I have my doubts about some of the so-called travel gurus. Expressed these earlier in the Europe forum today. Hope I didn't offend Gelli too much with that one.

I'm not offended in the slightest if you (or anybody else) disagrees with what I say. If everybody agreed with everything (especially something so often subjective as travel) then the world would be a boring place, and there would be no need for this travel forum at all.

Having said that, and please excuse the question, but I haven't actually found the comment in question or where you've made your comment. I'm curious and would you (or somebody else!) mind either replying with a link to it here, or sending me a PM with it in. I'm curious what you objected to/didn't like. Thanks!

And I agree with James's comment from earlier that there are often Guru's (and others) who seem to reply for the sake of replying and just give very vague/wide ranging answers, as opposed to actually giving useful/specific information. Its something i consciously try and avoid, but know that i'm certainly guilty of it from time to time.

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 2, 2007, at 9:31 AM by Gelli ]

47. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

I think Hien posted this link a bit further back, but here is the list of Mods and their forums. It also shows the individuals who are Respected Members and Travel Gurus.

Having looked at the link, am i being blind or is the Travel Equiptment forum currently Moderator-less?

You are correct - Travel Gear does not have a Moderator. Neither does Africa & The Middle East. Basically, those are Admin. territory at this time.

48. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4811 posts) 9y

Quoting james

Too frequently I find that a lot of the "advice" coming from certain travel gurus is mere general and vague comments that could be written by anyone.There are often no specifics provided, no in-depth advice, no hints or tips on where to stay/eat/weather/festivals/how to get around, etc, etc; basically no insights whatsoever that one would expect to be provided from a guru.

Please take a moment when you see such posts to rate them appropriately (and likewise when you see a really helpful post, rate that too). Note: appropriately for the post as standalone information, not how helpful you think it should be based on the member's 'status'.
I looked into the amount of ratings a couple of months ago, and was sad to discover that barely anyone makes use of the rating feature. (In fact, nowadays I give less extreme ratings for posts when I rate them, as my expectation that any extremes would be moderated by other people's ratings turned out to be false.)

Couple this with the ability to manipulate the ratings of your own posts, either through real or fictitious members and, presto, instant "travel guru"

There are several protections built in to prevent this, and if we ever saw such fictitious members created solely to rate posts, they'd be instantly banned. (Zero such members existed when I looked into it last time, and likewise there were zero "cliques" of members rating each others posts.)

I'd like to once again stress that "member status" should not be given too much importance in people's minds. Its purpose is two-fold: 1) to thank people for their valuable contributions on the site by giving them a bit more photo upload bandwidth and the ability to create more blogs. (Both of which shouldn't be necessary for most people, and which could just as easily be done without showing the silly string below usernames.) and 2) To give very new members to the site a bit of a guideline as to how 'experienced' on the site other members are; how likely they are to give useful advice. I'm personally not that fond of this second purpose, and would hope that most people would look at the content of the actual posts and how helpful that information was to their specific needs to determine if the advice is useful for them. Still, it's likely to at least help a few new members, and that is in the end what we're all about... Well, that, and actually travelling, of course! :)

Finally, I'd like to remark that there's been far more energy spent by all of you on the _fear_ of "abuse" of member rankings, than there's been spent by anyone actually trying to game the system and get a higher ranking.

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 2, 2007, at 10:50 AM by Sander ]

49. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4811 posts) 9y

Quoting Hien

As for Travel Gurus and Respected Members, I have seen them got demoted before. Mostly Respected Members getting demoted to Full Member status. It happens occasionally. A Travel Guru and a Respected Member exchanging ranks have also happened before, but rarely.

I think "demoted" and "stripping of rank" are really the wrong terms for talking about this. These rankings are fluid and ever changing; there's no deliberate intent behind changes in status, just boundary values in the automatic calculations being breached. It's a tiny change on the spectrum, as happens to everyone every day, but sometimes that change just happens to be where the line between the categories is being drawn.

I kinda hesitate to make note of this, but as a matter of curiosa, this last weekend we actually "lost" a travel guru, going from 23 to 22, as enough other people have contributed to the site that Twinkle (who hasn't posted since September 2006) had her ranking drop just below the dynamic threshold for guru. Her contributions to the site haven't become less useful in any way; it's just that as a percentage of the total contributions of everyone, they were slowly sinking in 'importance'.

50. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Sander

...anyone actually trying to game the system and get a higher ranking.

I'm only interested in the gaming part if there's a slot machine handle attached and my monitor starts spitting out nickels, quarters or dollars (preferably the latter). But, then again, I do have "Janitor" under my name - it's just written is some "foreign" language. (Moderator = Janitor in Clevelandish or Portlandian or Dubuquer.)

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 2, 2007, at 11:09 AM by Isadora ]