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12. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Hien

More power for the mods, I say!

keep the head cool, hien. power is never good. remember stalin and hitler;). let us be all equal and let us all have our own opinion without being offensive;). Hope u are good enough to not erase this post (I know u don't like it). with all friendly wishes...

wouter

[ Edit: Edited on Apr 16, 2007, at 5:58 AM by wouterrr ]

13. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 9y

Basically my view is that the tp mods are trusted by everyone to make judgments on post editing then why not subject headings? It's not like we'd do anything ridiculous I just thought for instance when someone writes 'travel companion' I could add -for spain 06

anyway its been itching me for ages so thought Id see what people thought, it might not even be possible!

14. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 9y

p.s I'm never teacherish in my post editing just want to be helpful! also I only ever edit urls so they can correctly reach the destination

5 gold stars for mim

15. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting mim

Basically my view is that the tp mods are trusted by everyone to make judgments on post editing then why not subject headings? It's not like we'd do anything ridiculous I just thought for instance when someone writes 'travel companion' I could add -for spain 06

anyway its been itching me for ages so thought Id see what people thought, it might not even be possible!

I agree with you, Mim. I don't think any of us would edit just for editing sake. Again, I was just playing devil's advocate. (And, I think someone planning Spain for 2006 has already missed the boat.)

It's not a bad idea and it could be useful. I was throwing out possible scenarios that the Overlords would also consider - then again, maybe not. (They are very good at using their mindreading blocking chip they had implanted just behind each one's left ear.) I also see where forums such as Travel Companions and Round the World would have a larger number of threads that could use "cleaning up" or more specifics.

I also wouldn't go the "teacherish" route, though it would be tempting once in awhile. Just correctly spelling and grammar really serves no purpose concerning this issue. Like you, I fix both links when they don't work and quotes where they have a missing piece of the quote code.

Isa leaves to go play devil's advocate somewhere else and find a 6th star for Mimsy. ;)

16. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 9y

Quoting mim

Basically my view is that the tp mods are trusted by everyone to make judgments on post editing then why not subject headings?

Because it's a very slippery slope, and much more subjective. Some people care a lot about the precise words they choose. (I can easily imagine creating a thread with an obscure thread title that'd only be understood by a few people who have knowledge of that subject.) And none of you would abuse the 'power' now, but the more you'd grow used to making such changes, the easier you'd find it to keep making them, until one day you stop seeing the distinction between that, and maybe fixing up some atrocious typos in the actual content of a post, and then... (I've seen it happen before, and it's not pretty. The best communities can be torn apart by such.)
And most of all because it doesn't fall under janitorial duties. A moderator exists to make bad things go away, not to make good things be "better". To put that in other words: the ideal moderator should never be noticed, never be seen to take action. Do only what's necessary, and that with hesitation.

17. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 9y

Why is it that Sander can formulate these things so much clearer than I? :)

18. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting mim

Basically my view is that the tp mods are trusted by everyone to make judgments on post editing then why not subject headings? It's not like we'd do anything ridiculous I just thought for instance when someone writes 'travel companion' I could add -for spain 06

anyway its been itching me for ages so thought Id see what people thought, it might not even be possible!

My personal opinion on this, is that it does not really matter, if somebody posts a not so great heading. It really should be their choice. And if they want to receive lots of replies, to the questions they ask, it is their responsibility, to learn to make a good thread title. If Mim wants to be helpful, she could announce, on a sticky thread, that she is available, to help anybody who would like help, with creating a thread title. If somebody offered me unsolicited help, with making a better thread title, I would interpret it as annoying nit picking.
I think moderators should concentrate only on intervening, where there is abusive behaviour, by members. ;)

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Apr 17, 2007, at 1:07 AM by Mel. ]

19. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Aside from the perspectives put forward, I'd also like to chip in and say I think it would be impractical to change thread headings. What is a thread has 20 subscribers and a mod comes along and changes the title. This also means that the subscriptions come in under a different title and members might well be confused (huh? I never subscribed to that. Those folks at TP must have started spamming me... etc. etc.). This doesn't only go for subscriptions, but probably even more so for members who come back after some time and remember a few words from a subject line so decide to search for that (either through the search form or through the forum cats). I'm sure this would mean confusion and frustration, probably two of the things we try to avoid the most.

And as for me personally, my emails in my inbox are grouped by subject, so I can go in and answer for example all emails that relate to accommodation bookings in one go, or browse through all emails that relate to one thread in one go etc. This would of course mess up my system and surely that can't be good Although I jest about this second reason, it actually affects everyone using gmail who set their mail to this by default I've heard, so it is somewhat of a problem too.

It does have some benefits but I just don't see them weighing up against the downsides

20. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 9y

Obviously there are some practicalities that stand in the way then Sam

I was just interested in knowing if it was feasible...When the odd thread comes up that is inappropriately titled I wonder if it could be done (think I was under some weird impression that the threads were coded by number or something like that and in binary so a name change would be copied by any links that it was attached to.)

now I know that I am a tp janitor I will return to my mop, just call me missy mop mim, I feel a name change coming on...