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1. Posted by nick_j (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

Hey,

I'm a 22 yo kiwi guy planning on travelling through Eastern Europe at the end of the year. Starting off in Austria, and heading to Liechtenstein (for novelty), then heading back through Austria and Eastern Europe, through Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Rep, Poland, Germany, and then Amsterdam, though money providing i could also head out to Bulgaria and/or Romania. Pretty keen on staying at hostels throughout, and doing it as cheap as possible.

Anyone else gonna be in Europe at a similiar time, doing the same thing? I'm travelling solo, so it'd be good to possibly meet up with someone along the way!!

[ Edit: Edited on Apr 29, 2007, at 4:57 AM by nick_j ]

2. Posted by BodybuildN (Budding Member 6 posts) 9y

Hey Nick

I saw your post seeking travel buddies for Europe in late 2007 to early 2008. I'm planning a similar trip, and it looks like some of our dates and destinations overlap, so I thought I'd drop you a line. I'm planning to hit various destinations in Eastern and Central Europe during my school's winter break. Below you will find my tentative plans; it would be great to have someone to tag along with on the journey (the itinerary below is flexible and I'm open to other possibilities)

Dec 28 - Dec 29, 2007 ---> Flying from Los Angeles to Berlin

Dec 29 -- Jan 2, 2008 ---> Celebrating New Year's in Berlin

Jan 2 -- Jan 5, 2008 ---> Florence, Italy

Jan 5 -- Jan 6, 2008 ---> Venice, Italy

Jan 6 -- Jan 9, 2008 --> Ljubljana, Slovenia (and day trips to ski
and mountain villages)

Jan 9 -- Jan 12, 2008 --> Dubrovnik, Croatia (and island-hopping)

Jan 12 -- Jan 14, 2008 --> Budva & Kotor, Montenegro

Jan 14 -- Jan 16, 2008 --> Belgrade, Serbia or Zagreb, Croatia

Jan 16, 2008 --> fly back to Los Angeles

I'd also really like to explore Bulgaria, but I can't quite figure out how to fit it into this itinerary -- it seems difficult to find cheap ways to get between Croatia/Montenegro and Bulgaria -- although one option is an overnight train from Bar, Montenegro to Belgrade and then another overnight train from Belgrade to Sofia.

Anyway, let me know if any of that meshes with your plans. I've been to some of the places on your list, Czech Republic, Hungary,
Poland, so if you need any advice on those destinations, let me know...

Cheers!

G.

<<I'm a 22 yo kiwi guy planning on travelling through Eastern Europe at the end of the year. Starting off in Austria, and heading to Liechtenstein (for novelty), then heading back through Austria and Eastern Europe, through Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Rep, Poland, Germany, and then Amsterdam, though money providing i could also head out to Bulgaria and/or Romania. Pretty keen on staying at hostels throughout, and doing it as cheap as possible.

Anyone else gonna be in Europe at a similiar time, doing the same thing? I'm travelling solo, so it'd be good to possibly meet up with someone along the way!!>>

3. Posted by happy_mel (Budding Member 25 posts) 9y

Hi,

I think your trip sounds great, im doing a similar trip for four months starting next week: Below is a rough idea of my trip. Please feel free to contact me if you would like any advise after my trip. I will be writing a blog too:

5th June, 4 nights Rome, Pisa 2 nights, Milan 2 nights, great lakes (lake Iseo and Lake Garda 7 Nights) Verona 2 nights. 7 Nights head down east Italy to Bari, to then get a ferry.

Spend one month travelling through Corfu, Albania and Serbia Montenegro (yet to be planned) Arrive Split, Croatia 14th July for a 2 week tour. Then I'll head north and spend 6 weeks visiting Slovenia Lake Bled and Ljubijana, Hungry, Czech Rep, Berlin and Poland.

Hopefully if I have any money left I'll spend the last 4 weeks visiting Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finish in Finland. It sounds one major trip ey!

I hope you have fun planning, Iv not planned anything for sure other than Italy, Im hoping to decide on the day where I go or should I say where ever the wind takes me.

All the best

Mel

4. Posted by amorphis (Budding Member 47 posts) 9y

Hi all,
I like to comment on the Balkan parts of the trips you're planning - i happen to have a more than average familiarity with that region.
There are ferry boats going from Kerkira town (Corfu capital) to Saranda, AL. On average, 3 or 4 times a day. But two years ago I nearly missed my plane back to Amsterdam because the schedule had suddenly been adapted to 1-2 times a day... So check-doublecheck!
Make sure you take enough time for customs formalities at the Kerkira docks. When going to Albania, the Greek officials tend to treat you as a 'victim' instead of a customer. They are just not willing to speed up their act, even not when it is 5 minutes before the ferry leaves...
Take enough time to get a good impression of Albania. It is a unknown but beautiful corner of the Balkan peninsula. Roads are often bad (though gradually improving), budget lodging is sometimes hard to find (though available). Make sure you don't miss Butrint, south of Saranda. The same applies for Gjirokaster and Berat, both interesting historical towns. Elbasan is a kind of open-air industrial museum; it depends on your personal preferences if you wanna go there. One day and night in Tirana is enough. That will save you time to spend a while in Shkoder up north, on your way to Crna Gora (Montenegro).
In Montenegro the must-have-beens are Kotor town and the Kotor bay. Budva and Herceg Novi are also nice, but in my view a bit overtouristic. And don't miss the inner country of Crna Gora (too many uninformed tourists do, unfortunately). Head to either Zabljak or Kolasin to approach a true miracle of nature, UNESCO's Durmitor park. Then get a unforgettable refreshment in Biogradsko Jezero (lake). Only then you can head fairly for Croatia without pitiful omittances.
Have a nice trip over there!

5. Posted by will13 (Full Member 73 posts) 9y
  • [12 Dec 2007] Berlin, Germany

* [12 Dec 2007 - 15 Dec 2007] Warsaw, Poland
* [15 Dec 2007 - 18 Dec 2007] Vilnius, Lithuania
* [18 Dec 2007 - 21 Dec 2007] Rīga, Latvia
* [21 Dec 2007 - 24 Dec 2007] Saint Petersburg, Russia
* [24 Dec 2007 - 27 Dec 2007] Moscow, Russia
* [28 Dec 2007 - 30 Dec 2007] Kiev, Ukraine
* [31 Dec 2007 - 03 Jan 2008] Bucharest, Romania
* [04 Jan 2008 - 07 Jan 2008] Belgrade, Serbia
* [07 Jan 2008 - 10 Jan 2008] Zagreb, Croatia
* [10 Jan 2008 - 14 Jan 2008] Budapest, Hungary
* [15 Jan 2008 - 18 Jan 2008] Prague, Czech Republic
* [18 Jan 2008] Berlin, Germany

That is my goal itinerary for about the same time as you. I will be travelling with my best friend, we are both male 19 years old from Canada and Italy respectively. Anyways we are planning to rent a car and drive that tour, staying in hostels. If you want to pitch in on car rental and gas you are more than welcome to come along with us....

6. Posted by laura2007 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

Hello,

I am planning to go Munich for the Oktoberfest at the end of September, but i found on contiki tours, one for 5 days slepping bag no hotel... so i would prefer hotel since i am going by myself... can someone please explain me how does oktoberfest work? it is worth to go there or better go Frankfurt?
also i would like to go Paris

Laura

7. Posted by BodybuildN (Budding Member 6 posts) 9y

Hi Will

Your itinerary sounds very interesting and some of our destinations overlap, but I have some questions for you. Are you going to be able to find a rental company that will let you drive through all of those countries, or do you plan to rent different cars in different countries? I think it would be nearly impossible to find a company that will let you rent a car and drive it through so many countries. It also sounds very expensive to do this...

Why not take the train -- get a rail pass? You could even fly between many of these countries using budget airlines. There are more than two dozen budget airlines throughout Europe that allow you to fly between European cities for as cheap as 10 euros each way. I can send you a list of those airlines...

I think driving in winter could be very unpredictable and difficult -- especially when you get to Serbia and Croatia (very bad roads)...

I think you should estimate the cost first and then decide if driving is the best option (financially and logistically). You will find it much cheaper to take to the train (or bus) or perhaps fly...

Also, you must keep in mind the driving distance between some of your destinations. Some of these countries border each other but there are very long driving distances between cities. For example, going from Moscow to Kiev and Kiev to Bucharest by car could take a very long time. Another consideration is visas. Of course, Russia requires a visa, and depending on your route, you may be driving through countries that require a visa -- for example driving from Warsaw to Vilnius may take you through Belarus -- and Belarus requires a visa...

A strongly recommend that you consider the train, bus, or budget airlines. If you feel strongly that you want to explore some of these destinations by car, then consider using a combination of transportation options. Take the train or plane between long distances, and do car rentals for shorter distances. Given that you only have a few weeks to travel so many cities, it's best not to spend so much time driving. Keep in mind that it's winter, and the driving conditions may not be as good as they would in spring or summer...

Send me an email or pm if you want more advice. I think I'll be in Serbia and Croatia around the same time as you if you want to meet up. See my itinerary in my previous post to this thread...

'Best,

G.

<<* [12 Dec 2007] Berlin, Germany

  • [12 Dec 2007 - 15 Dec 2007] Warsaw, Poland
  • [15 Dec 2007 - 18 Dec 2007] Vilnius, Lithuania
  • [18 Dec 2007 - 21 Dec 2007] Rīga, Latvia
  • [21 Dec 2007 - 24 Dec 2007] Saint Petersburg, Russia
  • [24 Dec 2007 - 27 Dec 2007] Moscow, Russia
  • [28 Dec 2007 - 30 Dec 2007] Kiev, Ukraine
  • [31 Dec 2007 - 03 Jan 2008] Bucharest, Romania
  • [04 Jan 2008 - 07 Jan 2008] Belgrade, Serbia
  • [07 Jan 2008 - 10 Jan 2008] Zagreb, Croatia
  • [10 Jan 2008 - 14 Jan 2008] Budapest, Hungary
  • [15 Jan 2008 - 18 Jan 2008] Prague, Czech Republic
  • [18 Jan 2008] Berlin, Germany

That is my goal itinerary for about the same time as you. I will be travelling with my best friend, we are both male 19 years old from Canada and Italy respectively. Anyways we are planning to rent a car and drive that tour, staying in hostels. If you want to pitch in on car rental and gas you are more than welcome to come along with us....>>

[ Edit: Edited on Jun 2, 2007, at 9:27 PM by BodybuildN ]

8. Posted by Buttfish (Respected Member 298 posts) 9y

if you're going to be in serbia - try a dish called 'Burek" - it comes with cheese, or meat, or empty - and eat it with yogurt. you can get it in any bakery (and there's lots of those!). too delicious.

a tip. :) and have fun on your trip!