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21. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting Daawgon

For your info (not that anyone in Norway gives a good ____)

Don't know why you'd say that, I've been pretty responsive to this topic I think. Specifically I was asking in my last response to you what ideas you had on how this would work. But hey, I've got thick skin :)

Quoting Daawgon

I just deleted all of my blog entries, copied them to storage, and then re-created the entire blog so it would be readable in travel sequence by my friends who have never been to the blog previously. It would be quite an improvement if TP provided a complete index on the main page as Blogger and several other travel blogs have done so some navigation could be done without reinventing the wheel!

It wouldn't have been necessary to delete all the blog entries, but that's besides the point at this time I think. Whilst I see you want to have it that way, it is in fact counter to the very nature of what defines a blog, which is why we never thought of this originally. That's why I was asking for ideas, since for most users the current way of doing things is the right way. The way you have it now, it's going to be confusing for every new visitor to your blog what is happening, especially if you ever add a new entry. This is why I've been trying to think a little outside the box on a way to still place entries in order, but separate from the actual blog.

As I wanted to see how these other sites do it, I spent some time digging through my blogger testing account and can't find a. any way to order blog entries other than the default which is exactly the same as here or b. a complete index on the main page on any of the blogs I was looking at. They all have a listing of latest 5/10 entries, archive etc., but that's all here as well. In fact I can't even find a complete table of contents on a separate page on any of the blogger blogs I'm looking at? Could you point me in the direction of some of these blogs where you've seen this? It might just be that the blogger has listed all their entries in order in their latest post!

One thing I thought I might point out is that you can increase the entries that show up per page (under Settings). You could nearly get your entire blog on one page by editing that.

22. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

Travelpod seems to have the most complete travel blog system, and I can read it in sequence with links embedded to the next entry or using the complete index at the bottom. It appears that Bootsnall blogs can be sequenced in either the conventional way (as is TP) or in reverse order.

Have you actually tried to read a complete travel blog, as opposed to a non-travel blog, from start to finish? If you did, I think you might actually see what we're screaming about!

23. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

Quoting Sam I Am

Quoting Hien

Sam, at the moment, the trip detail page (member_map.cfm) shows only the destinations travelled during the period. I suggest that the blog entries and photos that corresponds with the dates of the trip be shown as well. It can be done either by tabs or listing everything on the page. This is, in a way, an overview of the trip selected. On the blog sidebar, the latest 3 trips can be listed as well.

Blog entries and photos are shown on that page (and always have been), for example see this link (note that that should actually zoom in on the spot like it does when you click the next/previous stop links, but for some reason doesn't right now....). Or is that not what you meant? Of course for it to work you have to have filled in travel dates!

The blog entries and photos will only show when you click on a stop (and there's a stopID on the querystring). If you're viewing the entire trip by clicking on the link to the trip or from the dropdown box, the blog entries and photos will not show.

24. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting Daawgon

Travelpod seems to have the most complete travel blog system, and I can read it in sequence with links embedded to the next entry or using the complete index at the bottom. It appears that Bootsnall blogs can be sequenced in either the conventional way (as is TP) or in reverse order.

I'm not seeing any Bootsnall blogs ordered that way, but it might be an optional setting and not used very often. I do like the Travelpod overview layout, which is actually exactly in line with what I was thinking. By default they too link to the latest entry, but you can choose to view an entire trip and click through entry by entry. Their system started off as a diary system and a linguistic purist would probably say it doesn't actually qualify as a 'blog' persé (no templates to choose from, archives etc.). However that's certainly not to say it isn't a great solution for someone travelling; I wouldn't expect anything less from them!

I think the solution here lies in a combination of what Travelpod has, Hien suggested (which is also like Travelpod has) and my ideas around this. Going to run it by the team here and get started.

25. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting Hien

The blog entries and photos will only show when you click on a stop (and there's a stopID on the querystring). If you're viewing the entire trip by clicking on the link to the trip or from the dropdown box, the blog entries and photos will not show.

I was wondering if that was what you meant afterwards. I think you're right in that that area is where something like this makes most sense. It centers more around the concept of a 'trip' versus a continuous blog which is what we originally had in mind, but I can totally see the logic in this. And we do already have the concept of trips integrated, so no reason not to take it one step further :)

26. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

Quoting Sam I Am

Quoting Hien

The blog entries and photos will only show when you click on a stop (and there's a stopID on the querystring). If you're viewing the entire trip by clicking on the link to the trip or from the dropdown box, the blog entries and photos will not show.

I was wondering if that was what you meant afterwards. I think you're right in that that area is where something like this makes most sense. It centers more around the concept of a 'trip' versus a continuous blog which is what we originally had in mind, but I can totally see the logic in this. And we do already have the concept of trips integrated, so no reason not to take it one step further :)

Here's an example of chronological sequencing at Bootsnall:

http://blogs.bootsnall.com/jelacr1/

Sam - I realize my approach, at times, is somewhat nasty and inappropriate, my apologies. I think it's just the American way - we're bombarded here with so much that's negative that we ourselves lash out as though we're in constant warfare (not far from the truth!) I picked Travellerspoint because I liked the unique layout, the humorous templates, and the fact that it was just a little different from what everyone else was using over here. Let's all make this a better TP.

27. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting Daawgon

Here's an example of chronological sequencing at Bootsnall:

http://blogs.bootsnall.com/jelacr1/

Interesting! Especially as he's still travelling so it looks really strange to me. I see he's had to post a comment on the right in a recent entry, perhaps having to do with this. I also like how the link to get to newer entries actually still says 'previous entries', hehe. Seems like something that could happen here too if putting a change like this in place. After a discussion on this end, I think I'll give this way of doing it a go though.... no guarantees as to when it'll be done as not sure what issues we'll run into over this :)

Quoting Daawgon

Sam - I realize my approach, at times, is somewhat nasty and inappropriate, my apologies. I think it's just the American way - we're bombarded here with so much that's negative that we ourselves lash out as though we're in constant warfare (not far from the truth!) I picked Travellerspoint because I liked the unique layout, the humorous templates, and the fact that it was just a little different from what everyone else was using over here. Let's all make this a better TP.

No worries, my mom is American (making me half American), so I know what you mean

28. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

I'm sure you're all aware of this accolade, but others might not be - Travelfish seems to love TP blogging style: http://www.travelfish.org/feature/91

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