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1. Posted by akshyat (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Im 21 and traveling Europe for 23 days May 8th onwards.
Iv been reading this forum for a while and thought Id ask around if anyone could tell me if I was going right/wrong.
Im going backpacking alone btw and its a budget trip.

May 8 - 10 Austria, 10th Night from Innsbruck to Venice
May 11 - Venice
May 12 - Leave Anacona for Greece
May 13 - 14 - Athens and surrounding areas.
May 15 - 16 - Rome
May 17 - 19 - Via Monacco and Lyon to Paris
May 20 - 21 - Paris, 22nd depart to Bruges.
May 22 - Depart to Berlin early morning.
May 23 - 24 - Berlin and surrounding areas.
May 25- Amsterdam
May 26 - 28 - Pinkpop
May 29 - Depart from Vienna to Delh, India.

Also, can I avail campsites ON THE SPOT and pitch tents at most regions without trouble?

I would be grateful for any help. I know it sounds like Hitler's failed anexxation plan but whatever. Too many places, but I just have to.

Thanks in advance. :)

Cheers!!

2. Posted by akshyat (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Pinkpop = music festival at Landgraaf, Netherlands

3. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello Akshyat:)

In my opinion, if u travel at the pace u are planning, it will be very tiring, expecially with jetlag. If it was me, I would make it only 2 countries.
But dont worry much about other things. Europe is a relatively very safe place, to travel. The only place u will have more chance of having problems is Italy. Watch out for pick pockets. If people in the street ask u for money, dont take out your purse. If u want to give them something, keep your spare change where u can take it out easily, without showing all the money u have.
If u are a woman, u may get more attention, in Italy and Greece, from men than u would want, but u can usually just ignore them.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on May 3, 2007, at 12:15 AM by Mel. ]

4. Posted by akshyat (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Thanks a ton, Mel.
Ill keep that in mind. I agree that its good to just do certain cities or countries but its the joy of being a little quick, and I doubt I would ever get time to do any of these again as I start with studies and job proper once im back in India.
And Im doing only Eurail.

5. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Well, sometimes rushing around can be fun.
Anyway, exhaution isnt always a bad thing. Sometimes, I go some place and hardly sleep at all. Then it feels so nice, to fall into bed, after such a weekend.

If u have Eurail, u can also sleep on trains. It saves a lot of time. U get on the train, at around 11 or 12PM and then wake up, in the next destination. U dont need to be in the sleeper section. I usually just sleep, in a seat, or in my sleeping bag, if I can find some space, on the floor. It is better to sleep inside your sleeping bag(even on warm nights), on night trains, to protect your money belt. But, if the train goes along a particularly scenic route, then take the day train. For example, the views are fantastic, along the Italian and French Riviera.

6. Posted by akshyat (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Thanks Mel, again. brilliant.
And yeah, The journey I look most forward to is the train changing and movement from Rome to Monacco via Pisa along the coast.

Ill prolong agony a bit - anyone taken the Italy to Greece ferries?

7. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 9y

I think that you should look at changing the May 12 - 14 section of your itinerary.

Just doing Rome itself is hard to see rushing around in 5 days let alone 1-2 days like you have set aside. Over 2 trips I have now been there for 11 days and 1 doing day trips and I still haven't managed to see everything (I have seen heaps of the things on both trips though). On my first trip I walked for 14 hours, 14 hours and 12 hours over the course of 3 days of sightseeing just in Rome and I didn't even get close to seeing it all even though I used all my days very well.

I did a rushed trip like yours (only mine was over 4 months RTW) and you may find you need to drink a lot of Coca Cola (or similar drink) with high caffein and sugar content to keep yourself willing to walk and walk all day. It can be hard, but if you keep your eye on your reason for travelling and how you've spend a load of money to come to these places, you should keep yourself getting up very early to make the most out of every single day.

If you are relying on Trains or flights, I always tried to get one that either goes late at night, or one that goes very early in the morning (arriving in my destination of choice by 9.00am or not long after) so that I could make the most out of my day in one of the places.

As for what Mel was saying with personal safety in Italy, the only place I think you'd have to really be very careful is Naples. That made me feel more uncomfortable (and for good reason) than going in Rio De Janeiro or Mexico City which have a reputation for high theft and violence rate. Of course their is a chance something may happen in Rome, Venice or anywhere for that matter, but if you are aware of your surrounds, take the commonsense security precautions most of which Mel said, but preferably wearing a money belt that is worn in your pants if you have any excess cash, well you should be fine without any hassels. For some reason people seem to say Rome is dangerous, but even around the very touristy areas it didn't seem unsafe, but that's not to say I'd carry a large quantity of Euro in my wallet. About the most unsafe thing I found in Rome was the crazy maniac drivers who enjoy nothing more than trying to use pedestrians as speed humps. Naples on the other hand is a whole different story. From the moment I got off the train I felt the hairs stick up on my back and felt I needed to watch my back I just got that feelign (and it turned out for good reason). Not long after getting off the train, I witnessed a couple of pickpocketing incidents and a couple of fights break out and all this before I had even left the train station. Then when I got out and saw some of the city, I was walking down a side street I had a glass bottle thrown at me from an upper level unit which had I not just looked up, it is quite possible that it would have smacked me clean in the head. Those things were just the beginning of the nightmare that was Naples. I guess they don't call it the murder capital of Italy for no reason.

Really if you only have 2 days for Athens and surrounds their is not much point in even going just the same as if you can only set aside 2 days for Rome.

Whatever you decide on have a great trip.

[ Edit: Edited on May 3, 2007, at 6:07 AM by aharrold45 ]

8. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 9y

What is your plan on getting from Landgraaf to Vienna on time? (catching a plane in Cologne or Düsseldorf???) The festival ends arounds midnight on Mondayevening. I hope you have enough margin to make it to Vienna. (Couldn't change your return flight to leave from Düsseldorf, Cologne or Frankfurt, for a small fee ??? That would make it a lot easier.

And I have to agree, you are rushing things way too much, and you are all over the place. Rome to Paris (pretty near to Landgraaf), to Berlin. I would drop Greece. Take at least 1 day extra to recover from jetlag in Venice , head for Rome (4-5 days), fly to Berlin (3-4 days) fly to Paris (4-5 days), enjoy the festival. You'll see you have much more relaxed trip ahead of you, and with these places covered you could add some days in Brugge, and maybe a couple in Florence.

Just presume, you will return one day to see the ones you are skipping this time. (even if it takes a while).

9. Posted by akshyat (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Hey, Thank you.
Landgraaf to Vienna - Iv booked a 7 AM flight from Dusseldorf to Vienna. The only issue is reaching overnight from Landgraf to Dusseldorf and there are no trains or buses at that time slot. So maybe an issue for me. I will have to miss the Smashing Pumkins (which is something I didnt wanna miss) But cant help it.

And yes, I do know Im rushing and accumulating stuff but I have little or no option but to do Europe in this one go. I will be a bit slower when doing Eastern Europe next year.

aharrold -

If you are relying on Trains or flights, I always tried to get one that either goes late at night, or one that goes very early in the morning (arriving in my destination of choice by 9.00am or not long after) so that I could make the most out of my day in one of the places.

Yes, indeed. I would be doing more or less the same. Saves my money on accomodation too :)
But will take the Rome--->Pisa---> Monaco route during the day as the views did sound captivating. And its around a total of 5 hours!!

Really if you only have 2 days for Athens and surrounds their is not much point in even going just the same as if you can only set aside 2 days for Rome.

I will think about it tonight. Will re chalk details to get it correct.

@herr bert - I will someday return with a lot more money than currently and a lot better planning but that would be 7-8 years from now. And probably after I have done a couple of continents further. This is my first Non UK Europe trip and Im quite just hoping I manage through it.

I have certain questions (if its not an issue with anyone) -

1. How safe is Amsterdam? and what would an appx. budget be for the night there?

2. Is it easy to get on trains with a seat in May compared to the other months?

3. If a person lands up in a major town in May without prior booking, how much of a hassle can it be to get a budget place at night?

4. Staying at campsites (I have my tent) VS Hostels.

10. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting akshyat

1. How safe is Amsterdam? and what would an appx. budget be for the night there?

2. Is it easy to get on trains with a seat in May compared to the other months?

3. If a person lands up in a major town in May without prior booking, how much of a hassle can it be to get a budget place at night?

4. Staying at campsites (I have my tent) VS Hostels.

1. I would consider it safe to walk around, even at night. Just avoid streets with nobody on them, at night. Also, beware of pickpockets, in the old town.
2. I think u can reserve a seat, on the trains.
3. It is best to book a place, on the internet, before u get to the town. Probably in May, there will be accomodation available, without booking, but since u are short of time and may be tried from such speedy travelling, it would be wearing if u had to treck from one hostel/hotel to another, if some of them are full.