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11. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

Any of that any use?

well, of course, how couldn't it be..;)
It's more than I had ever expected. It triggered me to do some research.
I haven't looked at flights from Germany still, but from Amsterdam flying to Tashkent or Bishkek is about 700 euros including taxes. Still a lot of money but not to bad is it?
Flights are via Moscow and both arrive and leave from Sheremeteyvo airport. So I probably won't need any transit visa for that would I?

KLM has direct flight to Almaty, but more expensive, and actually not worth it, because probably I want to focus on just 1 or 2 countries, which seems better.

By the way, from Tashkent to Kyrgyzstan, can I use the borders between those countries nowadays (fergana valley things and so, still problems over there?), or do I need to travel through Kazachstan?

I also looked at visa possibilities, it seems that multiple entry (or double) are not possible to get over here, only more expensive business visa, otherwise one entry tourist visa. Oh well, maybe just visit one country better then.

Thanks again! Michael

12. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Utrecht
Thanks for the info about Turk.... I will go with the flow. If I can only get a transit visa, for a couple of days, then I will spend a couple of days there.
I dont suppose Lonely Planet has a book covering these countries?!
Have u considered Lithuania, Latvia or Estonia, as possible destinations? I have just come back from Estonia. It is a place where not too many tourists go, yet it has all the conveniences a tourist could possibly want.

Well, still have to visit those countries as well, but still am in doubt wether I will visit just a capital city now and then (long weekend trip) or go by car for about a month from Holland and also visit the countryside.
And in general, I focus on countries outside Europe as much as possible and save Europe for later when I have a kid or so.
Thanks!

13. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

I dont suppose Lonely Planet has a book covering these countries?!

Actually, they do.

Cool!!!
That makes it easier, to get some general information, about the countires. I will get the Lonely Planet book, as soon as I know, when I will be going, to one of those countries. It will be some time, after I go to Iran.
Thanks Gelli

[ Edit: Edited on May 3, 2007, at 1:14 PM by Mel. ]

14. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

And in general, I focus on countries outside Europe as much as possible and save Europe for later when I have a kid or so.
Thanks!

So, when are u going to start making babies Utrecht?
What about making it a project for next Winter?
It would give u something to do, on the cold grey days.;)

I bought the Lonely Planet book, for Cenral Asia, today.
So, if anybody wants to ask questions...
It covers Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. ;)

15. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

I haven't looked at flights from Germany still, but from Amsterdam flying to Tashkent or Bishkek is about 700 euros including taxes. Still a lot of money but not to bad is it?
Flights are via Moscow and both arrive and leave from Sheremeteyvo airport. So I probably won't need any transit visa for that would I?

I found a flight, for 600 return, from Munich to Bishkek. Many western country citizens can get a visa on arrival, at the airport in Bishkek. If that applies to Irish passport holders, I will book my ticket today. Looks like my going to Kyrgyzstan is going to happen this year. If I can easily get the visa, then I will go there, before going to Iran.

Utrecht, if we are in Kyrgyzstan, at the same time, we should meet up? We can bitch about Wouter, over some fermented mares milk(I miss coffee, so much, when I am travelling is some places).;)

[ Edit: Edited on May 8, 2007, at 1:15 AM by Mel. ]

16. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Utrecht

And in general, I focus on countries outside Europe as much as possible and save Europe for later when I have a kid or so.
Thanks!

So, when are u going to start making babies Utrecht?
What about making it a project for next Winter?
It would give u something to do, on the cold grey days.;)

I bought the Lonely Planet book, for Cenral Asia, today.
So, if anybody wants to ask questions...
It covers Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. ;)

LOL, not any specific plan right now about babies. First do some travelling.

17. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Utrecht

I haven't looked at flights from Germany still, but from Amsterdam flying to Tashkent or Bishkek is about 700 euros including taxes. Still a lot of money but not to bad is it?
Flights are via Moscow and both arrive and leave from Sheremeteyvo airport. So I probably won't need any transit visa for that would I?

I found a flight, for 600 return, from Munich to Bishkek. Many western country citizens can get a visa on arrival, at the airport in Bishkek. If that applies to Irish passport holders, I will book my ticket today. Looks like my going to Kyrgyzstan is going to happen this year. If I can easily get the visa, then I will go there, before going to Iran.

Utrecht, if we are in Kyrgyzstan, at the same time, we should meet up? We can bitch about Wouter, over some fermented mares milk(I miss coffee, so much, when I am travelling is some places).;)

That's a good price, including taxes as well? Is that a direct flight by the way?
Why is flying from Holland more expensive
Probably will decide if I go there somewhere in june/july, but it should be in september when I am going there, probably including Uzbekistan as well. That means arranging visa before going there, because on the border crossings visa are not available.
When are you going there?

18. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

I dont know, if it is a direct flight, or not. My boyfriend found it. But, I dont really care.
Yes, it includes taxes.
I think Ramadan is in September. I am going to go in October, because Ramadan might make things difficult. Maybe restaruants will be closed etc.

19. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

I dont know, if it is a direct flight, or not. My boyfriend found it. But, I dont really care.
Yes, it includes taxes.
I think Ramadan is in September. I am going to go in October, because Ramadan might make things difficult. Maybe restaruants will be closed etc.

O, jesus I didn't think about that. But is Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan totally muslim?
I was in Syria, Lebanon and Jordan during Ramadan in 2005. Actually Lebanon was ok, 30% is christian, even Syria was fine (10% christian, armenian shops open for alcohol), but Jordan was really bad. I spent some time in Irbid, the most afwul city without ramadan, but with ramadan it's a real hellhole.
Do you know when it is exactly?

20. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Elnaz says Ramadan is in September. She did not say exactly which dates.
But is it on the same dates in every muslim country? I posted a thread to ask, but did not get any replies, yet.
I want to go as early in October as possibly, because it gets incredibly cold, in Kyrgyz.., in Winter.

There are around 5 Kyrgyz... consulates in Germany, and none of them seem to answer their phones.
Anyway, why do they have so many consulates here? I have never met a person from Kyrgy... here.

[ Edit: Edited on May 8, 2007, at 7:09 AM by Mel. ]