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11. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 9y

Quoting wouterrr

I got very paranoia in paharganj, new-Delhi and also in Agra. but if u get in south-India it is the total opposite.

I agree with u that south india is much more tourist friendly. The fact is that the literacy rate in south india is much higher almost 100% and they have realised the fact that tourists should be encouraged as this generates additional revenue. they are aware that if foreign tourists are hassled and troubled they wont return back, in effect tarnishing the image of the country.
Contrary to this there is rampant illiteracy in north india and they tend to cheat people more and they consider this as their source of income. They are least bothered that such events would prove counter-productive in the long run as tourists inflow would dry up. All that is changing slowly and people are getting aware of the tourist potential. In north i found Himachal Pradesh and Leh as most tourist friendly
I read u post in the Asia forum where u describe of a relatively hassle free exerience.

Arif

12. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting arif_kool

Quoting Mel.

I think what Citybell and Arif Kool are doing is heckling. Aharrold is describing exactly what it is like for non Indian travelers, in India and I think they are heckling. Is there anything that can be done about hecklers? Mel

with due respect to all the moderaters and travel gurus i am surprised that all of u are finding fault about our posts, but not a single word has been said about the unfortunate comments made by aharrold when he says that " Indians dont know the meaning of honesty and not even a single person speaks the truth."
I agree that he may have had a bad experience and im indeed sorry and feel ashamed of that but i only object to his making a generalised comment about Indians, which cant be tolerated. Even in some of the earlier INDIA threads i have observed him posting such things on the slightest opportunity.

Arif

It is true that Aharrold says things like this. But I think he is talking about the people he met in India, rather than Indians in general. We as Westerners can visit India, and the only Indians we meet are ones relentlessly pestering us to buy things, men pestering foreign women and people trying to rob us. When I read what Aharrold says, I usually interpret any generalisations and exaggerations loosely and as an expression of his frustration with the difficulties of travelling in India, as a foreigner. For example, in another thead, Aharrold said there are bed bugs as big as bees, in the Salvation Hostel in Mumbai. I know they are not in fact big as bees, but they cause as much annoyance to Aharrod, as if they are big as bees. Anyway Arif, I think most of the things we say, that annoy Indian members of this site are due to cross cultural communication difficulties. We tend to exaggerate reality, to express our strong feelings about things. These exaggerations sound funny to us, so we laugh, and this relieves the stress we feel, about the situation.
We who have traveled in India know, that there is a lot more to India, than touts and pests. That is why we go there.;)

13. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

It is true that Aharrold says things like this. When I read what Aharrold says, I usually interpret any generalisations and exaggerations loosely and as an expression of his frustration with the difficulties of travelling in India, as a foreigner. These exaggerations sound funny to us, so we laugh, and this relieves the stress we feel, about the situation. We who have traveled in India know, that there is a lot more to India, than touts and pests. That is why we go there.;)

You have rightly pointed out Mel that Aharrold had a bad experience and his outbursts are a result of his frustation with the difficulties faced in india....

Arif

14. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

No problem Arif.
I understand to some extent, why u are annoyed. I sometimes face the same problem here, in Germany, where I live, with people making generalisations, about Ireland and Irish people. Up until relatively recently Ireland was a very poor country, and had a problem with terrorism. I have had to endure countless irritating comments, about this. ;)

15. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 9y

Ireland government is recently promoting tourism in a big way....Even in india i have several advertisements of Ireland tourism board exhorting tourists to visit Ireland.
Talking of Germany, we have been closely associated with it... my wife was there for close to 4 yrs for research in neurosciences and she often talks about her experiences there.

Arif

16. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Yes, tourism has been big, in Ireland, for a while now.
The weather is terrible, but the nature and the culture are wonderful.

Did your wife have good experiences, in Germany?
Germany is certainly not like India.

[ Edit: Edited on May 5, 2007, at 1:48 PM by Mel. ]

17. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 9y

Well she liked Germany in some ways....like they were very professional in their work, very punctual and their strictly sticked to their schedule. Work culture was good..
But in general she didnt find life as lively and buzzing as it was in Italy or france.

Arif

18. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Yeah, work and efficiency is often the priority here.
Ireland is also a lot more easy going, than Germany is. And a lot more family orientated too.

19. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Germany is certainly not like India.

lol
no mel, not really! ;)

20. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting Mel.

Germany is certainly not like India.

lol
no mel, not really! ;)

It's not?
It was when I was there;)