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11. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

I like crime, but only if it is committed by smart serial killers who don't get caught or if they do, that was there intention!
Or crime if it involves a lot of money to make, otherwise it's useless.

There are some pretty weird (but smart) types mainly in the US and lately the one in Canada. I also remember a backpacker killer in Australia, that's pretty awesome news to follow!

So far fascination.

Considering fear...not really afraid of things happening to me actually, especially not the fear by people for terrorist attacks. Now that's pretty useless and low crime, like anything based on religion or politics actually.

[ Edit: Edited on May 15, 2007, at 6:01 AM by Utrecht ]

12. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Did someone ring for the grammar police...?;)

Fascinating topic, Mikey. I have a meeting to rush to, but I will give it some thought and post back...

[ Edit: Edited on May 15, 2007, at 6:22 AM by tway ]

13. Posted by emma1979 (Full Member 126 posts) 9y

Quoting mikeyBoab

Quoting emma1979

hey Mikey,

you could maybe look into how the medja/government like to keep people in a state of fear as it fuels consumerism. that's a totally bland statement i just made but there is some scope there...;)

I dunno . . . not sure if I agree with that. Not that it's necessarily wrong I just don't see how such an argument could be constructed.

I mean things like what Michael Moore was demonstrating in one of his documentaries about how the news in america were broacasting about killer bees and stuff and the whole organic fruit thing. There was a news story here a couple of years ago also about how apples can give you cancer except organic apples (which are much higher priced) which in my opinion is bullshit. Fear and consumerism are very closely linked.

14. Posted by Buffalo (Full Member 120 posts) 9y

Have to go back to the first couple of threads - don't mind the grammar lads, it's the spelling you'd want to watch, grammAR not grammER...yes, I'm a big nerdo teacher!!!

15. Posted by clarife (Respected Member 294 posts) 9y

I agree with Emma about the Michael Moore comment. Have you watched farenheit 9/11? I think it gives an amazing insight on how the media can control the thoughts of people.

Onto the fear and fascination though -

I can be fascinated by books/programmes/films about forensics. I think its amazing how people can be bought from the slightest detail, and also the lengths people go to to avoid being caught. It sounds a bit crazy but I love watching a film about really intelligent criminals(not usually murderers or rapist, unless they're caught) but criminals who are doing something for a good reason or might have a bit of good in there somewere!

On the fear part, anything I see on the news that I think could happen to a member of the family or myself(for instance the case of madeleine McCann at the moment) can be terrifying and can make you act more cautious than you normally would.

Are there any particular points you are interested in?

16. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Open university, eh. I've heard about them. How's that working ?

I think a lot of it has to do with guilt. It's easier to do crime than it is to deal with the real situation. It's easier to kill than resolve a difficult domestic situation. It's easier to steal than to work for something. It's easier to rape than it is to build a long lasting relationship. I think we all feel the temptation and are worried about 'crossing the line'. Walking that tight-rope is fascinating. On the one hand we're forced by "proper society" to say we're good upstanding citizens, but we're also a little guilty when we search in our souls and have to admit that maybe, there's a small chance that we might not be so good after all. I think a lot of people watch or read news stories and think "what motived" that. In other words "would the same thing motivate me to the same crime" ? Inherent self interest is a big crowd pleaser.

[ Edit: Edited on May 15, 2007, at 12:36 PM by Q' ]

17. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Quoting clarife

I agree with Emma about the Michael Moore comment. Have you watched farenheit 9/11? I think it gives an amazing insight on how the media can control the thoughts of people.

Reminds me of Wag the Dog !! Have you seen it ? Love that movie. "the old shoe".....

18. Posted by clarife (Respected Member 294 posts) 9y

No I never seen it, but I did see george Michaels music video which was classic!!!!

19. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Quoting clarife

No I never seen it, but I did see george Michaels music video which was classic!!!!

Oi !?!! That didn't make it big over here.

Hoffman & De Niro

20. Posted by clarife (Respected Member 294 posts) 9y

you should youtube it - its basically a cartoon music video of george bush and tony blair! hilarious!