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31. Posted by mojorob (Moderator 1047 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

Should I be annoyed that for Wales, the languages are listed as English then Welsh?. Yet on the UK page, only English is listed as a language. In this case, maybe a note saying "and regional languages" or some such? Ireland & Northern Ireland get "Irish Gaelic", whilst Scotland gets a vaguer "Gaelic", and doesn't mention Doric etc.

And surely the whole of the UK should show Polish and Australian English as languages.....?

You forgot to mention another celtic language used in the UK, this time in England - Cornish!

32. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 9y

Guys, you all have very good points. The plan is for the quick facts to be editable and I would hope to have that working in the next week or two. Hopefully that resolves all these language gripes ;)

The maps are a slightly more complicated issue, because we are currently simply relying on maps and flags from the CIA. Regional maps would be nice to add, but there isn't currently a way for users to upload content like that into the wiki. It is possible of course to upload something as a photo in your gallery, but that's not quite the same thing. In the meanwhile, there would be nothing wrong with linking out to a good quality map of a region.

Incidentally, on the topic of the Asia page not listing the Middle East - that is actually editable. It would certainly be a change worth making.

33. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting mojorob

Quoting Gelli

Should I be annoyed that for Wales, the languages are listed as English then Welsh?. Yet on the UK page, only English is listed as a language. In this case, maybe a note saying "and regional languages" or some such? Ireland & Northern Ireland get "Irish Gaelic", whilst Scotland gets a vaguer "Gaelic", and doesn't mention Doric etc.

And surely the whole of the UK should show Polish and Australian English as languages.....?

You forgot to mention another celtic language used in the UK, this time in England - Cornish!

I thought that language has been gone these days?
And what about Manx? (isle of man)

34. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

Oh, and having just seem the list of "countries" down in Asia [Including Armenia and Azerbaijan, but not Georgia or Turkey which are both European] and remembering a long and occassionally heated debate on here not so long ago, you might need to come up with some kind of compromise.

That was a very nice debate indeed, and I am just going to do it over very briefly: Azer, Georgia and Armenia are European, Turkey is just partly European and most of it is Asian...;)

[ Edit: Edited on May 28, 2007, at 12:23 PM by Utrecht ]

35. Posted by mojorob (Moderator 1047 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting mojorob

You forgot to mention another celtic language used in the UK, this time in England - Cornish!

I thought that language has been gone these days?
And what about Manx? (isle of man)

I missed that one out because I was referring to the UK, and the Isle of Man is not part of the UK!

Edit: The Cornish language has received recognition from the European Union as a regional or minority language. It has seen a small amount of revival, and it is a "living" language. Cornwall County website link

[ Edit: Edited on May 28, 2007, at 2:13 PM by mojorob ]

36. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting mojorob

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting mojorob

You forgot to mention another celtic language used in the UK, this time in England - Cornish!

I thought that language has been gone these days?
And what about Manx? (isle of man)

I missed that one out because I was referring to the UK, and the Isle of Man is not part of the UK!

Edit: The Cornish language has received recognition from the European Union as a regional or minority language. It has seen a small amount of revival, and it is a "living" language. Cornwall County website link

Thanks.

But still, you have to explain (or Gelli, do you feel like explaining me) but it must be me again: Isle of Man is not part of UK? So it's part of Ireland? Independent? Stupid me has always been thinking it's part of UK, like Jersey and Guernsey.
I mean, it falls directly under the British Crown, doesn't it? Or doesn't that mean automatically under the UK? What a strange world....

[ Edit: Edited on May 30, 2007, at 3:19 AM by Utrecht ]

37. Posted by mojorob (Moderator 1047 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

But still, you have to explain (or Gelli, do you feel like explaining me) but it must be me again: Isle of Man is not part of UK? So it's part of Ireland? Independent? Stupid me has always been thinking it's part of UK, like Jersey and Guernsey.
I mean, it falls directly under the British Crown, doesn't it? Or doesn't that mean automatically under the UK? What a strange world....

Take a look here on the Isle of Man government website for your answer!

Basically the Isle of Man is a Dependency of the British Crown, but also an ancient Kingdom with a high degree of internal autonomy.

The Isle of Man has it's own government and is NOT a part of the UK, Republic of Ireland, or even the European Union.

38. Posted by mojorob (Moderator 1047 posts) 9y

And to add to that, both Jersey & the Bailiwick of Guernsey are also Crown Dependencies but NOT part of the UK.

39. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Thanks Mojorob, I guess I've learned something new today!

40. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 9y

Should have mentioned this here before; those quick facts can now be edited as well. So feel free to go in and update any inaccuracies. :) We're planning on pushing the guide live later this week, so the more content you can provide before then, the better!