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1. Posted by garry moll (Budding Member, 348 posts) 16 May '07 16:13

Call me old fashioned if you like but,,, same sex relationships has always confused me.
What people do behind closed doors with consenting adults may seem strange to me, but in a way ok.
“Different stroke for different folks”
But when children are involved is it right ???
Why should same sex couples be allowed to adopt children? Marry there partners and think this is a natural environment to bring up children in?
Yes children need a caring, loving and stable start to life, but is it right to bring up children in a same sex relationship. Or is the same sex relationship confusing children and misleading them to thing this relationship is the norm ?
just venting my thoughts.

2. Posted by tway (Travel Guru, 7274 posts) 16 May '07 16:25

Oh, Garry, you're opening up a can of worms there...

Personally, I think nature dictates your sexual orientation, and denying that leads to misery all 'round. I don't "understand" being gay as much as I don't "understand" how people can eat mushrooms or peas or lentil salad. It's not in my nature to be that way, but I can accept that other people have different orientations. And since sexual orientation has everything to do with being a full human being, and nothing to do with hurting anyone, to me it's a moot point to argue.

As for bringing children into a gay relationship, I'd be more worried about unfit parents - straight or gay - who are doing a terrible job of raising children. Or children in the poorest countries who are dying of preventable disease, dehydration, starvation - who end up being child soldiers, child prostitutes, and worse. We should concentrate our efforts on people who do such horrible things to kids.

3. Posted by james (Travel Guru, 4122 posts) 16 May '07 17:21

I'm all for it. Kids are no different whether bought up by a straight couple or a pair of goats.

Speaking of which, I'm divorcing my pet goat soon as my sister and I are planning to get married. Then we're off to the nearest IVF clinic to get her pregnant so we can have a family and be just like everyone else. If this doesn't work, we plan to adopt.

This is our right after all. If you don't like it then I suggest that you narrow minded people get your heads out of your Bibles/Korans/Torahs and get with the 21st century.

Don't you know that the definition of "nature" is fluid and can be used by me to suit my individual needs? Oh, you people badly need some re-education. I suggest that you and your kids attend homophobic classes at your nearest public school. That should sort you out. If it doesn't, a law suit and the Anti-Discrimination Act should set you on the right path.

4. Posted by garry moll (Budding Member, 348 posts) 17 May '07 01:04

wow. nice start.
im not saying its right or wrong the relationship.
but must be strange for the kids.
like i said diferant strokes for diferant folks:

5. Posted by garry moll (Budding Member, 348 posts) 17 May '07 01:07

sorry thats..... Different

6. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator, 1370 posts) 17 May '07 01:45

Can't see nothing strange or wrong with it. If you can get back to where it is really about, then it is about love. As love comes from inside the person, for me it doesn't make a difference if the outside of the person is covered by a female or a male.

The weird thing about gay relations, is that everybody who thinks about these is immediately thinking about sex, as if that is what defines that relationship. And sure you can't take the sex out of homosexual or bisexual, but in the first place it's about the love you want to share with somebody, just like in any other relationship. I am not saying that a lot of mostly young persons are just looking for sex, but that also is nothing really different from straight kids in their teens and early twenties. I hope that a little later in live, everybody has learned that sex, is a way to share your love with somebody.

Children are the easiest persons on the Earth, because everyday there is something new in their lives, they don't have the prejudice that we have, if you would a two or three-year old see grass that is blue or yellow instead of green it would accept, that grass can be yellow, just as it can be green. I don't think it is a bad thing that gay-couples adopt children, a loving home is much more important than the sexual orientation of the parents. I rather believe they bring up much more open-minded children than (some) other families.

As children are born without prejudice I wouldn't be surprised if someday it would be suggested by science that we are all born bisexual.

7. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru, 5073 posts) 17 May '07 01:50

Yeah, I agree with the liberals on this one.

The love of a family is the love of a family, whether that family is headed by a man and a woman, two men or two women.

8. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 17 May '07 02:44

Quoting garry moll

Call me old fashioned if you like but,,, same sex relationships has always confused me.
What people do behind closed doors with consenting adults may seem strange to me, but in a way ok.
“Different stroke for different folks”
But when children are involved is it right ???
Why should same sex couples be allowed to adopt children? Marry there partners and think this is a natural environment to bring up children in?
Yes children need a caring, loving and stable start to life, but is it right to bring up children in a same sex relationship. Or is the same sex relationship confusing children and misleading them to thing this relationship is the norm ?
just venting my thoughts.

The norm?
The norm is whatever a lot of people do.
If homosexuals were allowed to adopt children, and a lot of them decide to do so, it will then be the norm. So it would not be misleading children, into thinking something is the norm, when it is not.

9. Posted by Fun Bobby (Budding Member, 115 posts) 17 May '07 03:49

Ok this is possibly going of in a slight tangent, but sort of has to do with same sex realtionships. Its just something that has always confused me and that is butch lesbians.
You know, bungaress, short, stocky, short haired lesbians who look like blokes.

If a woman is in a relationship with another women who looks like a man, and they use sex toys in their love life than resembles a mans bit and pieces, why not just go out with a man?

10. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 17 May '07 05:39

Attraction is based on more than just body bits, Funbobby. In fact only a quarter of the attraction, between men and women, in a mature relationship is physical.
Brain chemistry make up has a lot to do with what type of person we are attracted to having a relationship with.
But it is certainly an interesting question u ask. I read some stuff about the psychology of attraction between men and women, but wonder how a gay person feels emotionally, in a relationship. Homosexual couples probably wouldnt have the same relationship dynamics, as hetro couples, would they?

[ Edit: Edited on May 17, 2007, at 5:51 AM by Mel. ]

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