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31. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 18 May '07 07:41

About the norm, and children being sensitive to it.
I think, having an attitude of acceptance, of people who are not like we are, is more important than rigidly living within the norm. If we place too much importance on what is the norm, then we give our children the message that we will not accept them, if they are not within the constraints, of the norm.
Can a 15 year old, who has just discovered that she/he is gay feel loved and accepted by parents who have placed such importance on the norm?

I had a black boyfriend, when I was 22. I even lived with him, for a while. I never introduced him to my parents, or even told them about him. Having a black boyfriend would not have been the norm, in our family. I felt they would have at least rejected him. Maybe they would also have rejected me. There was no way I could tell my parents, that I was not the norm.

32. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru, 3377 posts) 18 May '07 07:50

I would personally think that it would not be good. and I am not homofoob. I think that children need care from both a female and a male parent. I think that in that way the child learns about how male and females are from the start, because they are raised by them. 2 females can't make a child together, neither can 2 males. Maybe I am old fashioned in this as well. And besides, the child will be bullied his/her entire life about this. living outside the norm, like mel says, is a personal choice. children can't make that choice. kids need a father and a mother. not a mother and a mother and also not a father and a father. I am thinking that no good for the kid.

[ Edit: Edited on May 18, 2007, at 7:54 AM by wouterrr ]

33. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 18 May '07 08:00

Quoting wouterrr

And besides, the child will be bullied his/her entire life about this.

Really?

34. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru, 3377 posts) 18 May '07 08:24

Quoting Mel.

Quoting wouterrr

And besides, the child will be bullied his/her entire life about this.

Really?

kids are hard you know. they don't think.

35. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 18 May '07 12:00

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting Mel.

Quoting wouterrr

And besides, the child will be bullied his/her entire life about this.

Really?

kids are hard you know. they don't think.

U must be talking about your own kids. Mine thinks, way too much.;)

36. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru, 2026 posts) 18 May '07 12:26

Having seen the excellent hard work of a large number of gay foster parents, male and female, I'm certain that children don't need a 'mother and a father'. Neither do they necessarily need two parents around. It is condescending, insulting and just plain wrong to suggest that the hundreds of thousands of gay people and single people bringing up children around the world are damaging their children in some way by doing so.

37. Posted by garry moll (Budding Member, 348 posts) 18 May '07 15:36

sorry Rob. cant go with the single parent bit at all.
single parents ,,,,could be many reason as to why they may be single parents.
i dont give a monkeys about what type of sex acts people get up to behind closed doors with consenting adults.
i dont care if its two males.
i dont care if its two females.
i dont care what they wear or how they look in private.
just focus and think about the kids......
everyone has role models, and people to look up to and people they respect.
me im knocking on a bit now (just over 30 )
i too have children and grand children, and yes i would like to think i was a good parent, only your children know if you are a good parent or not. and my guess is they only know that when they too are parents too.
me i want to be like my dad....love my mum to bits and still do but. hey my dad is my hero. kind, loving, strong, fair,sharing and careing he taught me everything and guess what,,,,,people tend to grow up like there parents......

38. Posted by james (Travel Guru, 4124 posts) 18 May '07 21:21

Quoting magykal1

Having seen the excellent hard work of a large number of gay foster parents, male and female, I'm certain that children don't need a 'mother and a father'. Neither do they necessarily need two parents around. It is condescending, insulting and just plain wrong to suggest that the hundreds of thousands of gay people and single people bringing up children around the world are damaging their children in some way by doing so.

So which one does a child not need; a mother or a father?

What is insulting, is gay people pretending to be the same as straight people when it suits them. They are not the same. In fact, the gay "community" goes out of it's way, and have built up a whole industry, to flaunt their individuality and differences from maintsream society. These people are an offensive, disgraceful farce.

As for single parents, I'd put my money on the majority of them doing it tough. In fact, I'd also put my money on the majority of them knowing, and admitting, that their situation is not the ideal one to bring up kids in.

Anyone who thinks that people, children and society in general has not suffered because some kids have been bought up in single parent households is deluding themselves. In fact, I'd say that they are lying to themselves just so they don't offend anyone.

39. Posted by tway (Travel Guru, 7274 posts) 19 May '07 05:26

Quoting garry moll

sorry Rob. cant go with the single parent bit at all.
single parents ,,,,could be many reason as to why they may be single parents.

I have a friend-of-a-friend who opted for artificial insemination a few years ago. For a long list of reasons, she decided she wanted baby but no father. It was a conscious decision. Will the baby be missing out on something by having only the one parent - and by knowing the father was purposefully left out of the picture? Would it not be better to have 2 loving parents of either sex?

I think we're geting away from the topic, as well, when we equate same-sex relationships to sex. A homosexual couple is no more focused on sex than a heterosexual couple. It's a small, albeit important, factor in a loving relationship.

40. Posted by Afrodiziac (Budding Member, 33 posts) 19 May '07 12:13

quoting mel

I read some stuff about the psychology of attraction between men and women, but wonder how a gay person feels emotionally, in a relationship. Homosexual couples probably wouldnt have the same relationship dynamics, as hetro couples, would they?

lemme tell ya....a homosexual feels just the way you would feel with a homo or a hetro...cuz a homo cannot think of a hetro in that particular manner just like the way a hetro cannot think of a homo...cuz the feelin of being with a hetro for a homo is just close to the same of a homo being closely attaced to a hetro.....so itz imporatnt to know if ya can recollect as to who did ya ever go out wid an heto or a homo....cuz if ya feel just the way i do right now then probably u did go out wid an hetro n if ya dunt then probably it was a homo....in any circumstance i feel that feeling for both these knda relationships would be da same and since u have shunned away from humanity n have aroused this homo or a hetro (if ya can figure out) within u itz for ya to deternmine whether ur self an hetro or homo.