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11. Posted by Walkaways (Full Member 106 posts) 9y

I know a big part of it is work. I understand that, but it reminds me of a guy i met in Thailand. He was working a job he hated 9-5 style and genuinly hated the work. But he told me that he would not quit his job and try for a new one because he lived in Phuket - he would step out of the office and see a beautiful place. When i go on an outing for the weekend or something i find it rains, meaning spending my time off stuck in the car by a stoney polluted beach. I have wanted to learn to kayak for about 3/4 months but the weather has been so dodgy there is a high probability that it will rain rather than be sunny or even grey on my days off. And these are the sunniest months of the year - ive spent a total of 3 or 4 days this year wearing shorts.

If i lived in Canada id at least know that i could go to the rockies for a vacation - i mean wow, the rockies. Id also go nuts over the skiing in winter - something that in the UK you pay up to £50 to do an hours worth of (and thats after driving for over an hour to a dry ski slope). As for the chances to kayak, well as far as im concerned that would be amazing.

I wouldnt mind scraping by with a crappy job if i was living a couple of hours from the rockies, or could do outdoor activities without having to sit in my car for hours at a time hoping the rain would stop.

If you want to swap places id be up for it.

12. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 9y

Quoting Walkaways

If you want to swap places id be up for it.

I'm a LOOOONNNNGGGG way from the Rockies. You'd want to live in Calgary or Vancouver, I think.

Anyways, I get your point. I do think that geographic place has an impact on your happiness. I occassionally get sick of Toronto, and one of the nice things about my job is that usually I can go and work someplace else for a while. I often find, though, that when I return I'm happy to be home again.

That being said, I still could see myself potentially living in the UK / London for a spell. Why? Because it's different than here. It's a new experience - the rain and crowds and noise that you find so dreary would be different than what we experience here in Canada.

13. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Walkaways

If i lived in Canada id at least know that i could go to the rockies for a vacation - i mean wow, the rockies. Id also go nuts over the skiing in winter - something that in the UK you pay up to £50 to do an hours worth of (and thats after driving for over an hour to a dry ski slope). As for the chances to kayak, well as far as im concerned that would be amazing.

It would cost me more to travel to the Rockies from Montreal than to go to Europe. I'm looking at a good $900 by plane, or 3-4 days (and lord knows how much) by train. Plus train service here sucks as compared to Europe. I suppose I could go by car, but the week there and another back would pretty much eat up my yearly vacation quota.

I also live an hour away froom a decent ski slope - but the drive is normal. Things here are pretty far apart. As for kayaking, they have great expeditions up the Saguenay - a good, oh, 5-hour bus ride from here.

I honestly think it's all a matter of perspective. When I think of England, I think of great hiking, wonderful museums, The Beatles, lovely beer, lots of walking up and down pretty streets, the countryside, and easy affordable plane fares to tons of great places. But that would change, I assume, if I had my day-to-day life there. It's all a matter of the grass being greener on the other side!

14. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

I've been all across this country by land. All the provinces. There's only 1 territory I haven't been to. I've been to the Rockies twice, including the upper parts of it where it tapers off into little (yes little) hills. I've gone kayaking, canoeing, camping, etc. Recently it's just been another tree, another lake. Trust me, you get tired of whatever lifestyle you live. One of the great things about dating a German girl is that I see Canada through her eyes. For her it's all amazing. She's done a great job to revitalize my eyes, and I know all these activities are good for me, but I think I've been here too long. The two of us are explorers and I know where ever I am we'll have the spirit to make our lives interesting. I think you're better off finding that something or someone where you are that gives you what you need rather than blaming it on the UK and work. Cheers.

15. Posted by anglosurma (Respected Member 106 posts) 9y

I can totally understand you, i left on my second trip and have a plan in place so i dont have to return to the uk permanently , i feel to i cannot settle there i can not see a positive future, it does not offer what i would like for any children i may have.

mm poisitive
The uk has
wealth
nhs{teh}
heritage for me

negative
growing gun & knife crime
uncontrolled immigration
people spend to much time indoors
chavs on all street corners
people all in one big rush for 1 thing to get a bigger car or a bigger house than they have already
no community spirit
cant afford to live or buy even a council house

i feel safer in cambodia than i do in birmingham uk

im not saying its all like this in the uk but from where i come from thats what i see , and i know these problems can be anywhere

live outdoors go to newzealand or australia
freindly people go to new zealand or australia
low rates of crime go to new zealand or australia

i feel its the only way out from the uk

it can depend who you are where you live i guess

16. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Quoting anglosurma

mm poisitive
The uk has
wealth
nhs{teh}
heritage for me

negative
growing gun & knife crime
uncontrolled immigration
people spend to much time indoors
chavs on all street corners
people all in one big rush for 1 thing to get a bigger car or a bigger house than they have already
no community spirit
cant afford to live or buy even a council house

Sounds like a lot of the criticism about Toronto.

The stockmarket is doing better than the US one. Growing oil wealth & minerals up north.
The Canadian health services. Very similar to the NHS.
I grew up here, so it's pretty much in me.

Growing gang violence in the east end. Broad daylight shootings at downtown shopping malls.
Nobody here was born in Canada, and everyone keeps to their own segragated community.
People spend all their time on the internet and TV. And we only get 2-3 weeks of vacation/year.
Don't know what a chav is so can't comment. If it's bums and garbage....well Toronto isn't as clean as it used to be lets just say. The mayor even has started "pick up street garbage days".
Everyone wants to get wealthy. That goes unsaid just about anywhere. Toronto is no different.
$300,000 to 500,000 for a 3 bedroom. Can't afford that unless you indebt yourself up to the eyeball.

Wanna trade citizenships so we can check out how misserable each others lives are ?

17. Posted by anglosurma (Respected Member 106 posts) 9y

Q
fair does , mm i guess its just the way the whole west is steering toward ,
well its more noticable in the city you grow up in , from a place that was once safe and freindly to a place thats completely out of control.

i always try and see the best of everthing if possible so ill stop whining now .

oh and a chav is a person, who is educated only by rap music and pretends there eminem or tupac just for your future refrence

18. Posted by dbgomes (Respected Member 72 posts) 9y

Quoting Walkaways

I know a big part of it is work. I understand that, but it reminds me of a guy i met in Thailand. He was working a job he hated 9-5 style and genuinly hated the work. But he told me that he would not quit his job and try for a new one because he lived in Phuket - he would step out of the office and see a beautiful place. When i go on an outing for the weekend or something i find it rains, meaning spending my time off stuck in the car by a stoney polluted beach. I have wanted to learn to kayak for about 3/4 months but the weather has been so dodgy there is a high probability that it will rain rather than be sunny or even grey on my days off. And these are the sunniest months of the year - ive spent a total of 3 or 4 days this year wearing shorts.

If i lived in Canada id at least know that i could go to the rockies for a vacation - i mean wow, the rockies. Id also go nuts over the skiing in winter - something that in the UK you pay up to £50 to do an hours worth of (and thats after driving for over an hour to a dry ski slope). As for the chances to kayak, well as far as im concerned that would be amazing.

I wouldnt mind scraping by with a crappy job if i was living a couple of hours from the rockies, or could do outdoor activities without having to sit in my car for hours at a time hoping the rain would stop.

If you want to swap places id be up for it.

I would have to agree with Some of the comments the other guys have said. I am now living over here in the UK moved from Aus. I was bored in Aus, sat behind a computer sceen all week working my ass off whilst being underpaid, luckily got on the property ladder before the big boom, but still had a mortgage to pay. Would spend the weekends in front of the tv just getting strength to fight on the next week. Going to the same pubs on a friday night/saturday night, watching the same crappy 5 free to air tv stations.

I have now been here for 18 months and have a job where i sit behind a screen all day, brought a house (one of the benefits of not moving to London, instead settling up north), got all similar stresses as back in Aus... but i couldn't be happier. On the weekends i go to York, Lincoln, Lake District, Down south to see family, Peak District, Walking, Seeing castles and palaces like Chatsworth House, Northumbria. And every few months i get a good low cost fare and take day or two off around a weekend and get over to somewhere in Europe. There is a purpose to sitting behind the screen all day now!!!

So as others have pointed out, work is the big obstruction for most of us, but it is the change that you are after most! Something different from what you have grown up with. Why dont you get in the car and drive to Canterbury this weekend?? Probably because at some point in the past you have seen it, or it is always there so you dont feel a need to go and see it this weekend... there is always another time. I agree with you that sometimes the weather can make it harder, but it has never stopped me putting a rainjacket on and doing a little walk in the Yorkshire Dales. I would do nothing of the sort in Perth. We had some of teh best beaches in the world only 2km away from our house and in the last 5 years in Aus i would have been there no more than 5 times!!

I do also agree with another part of your posts. I will eventually go back to Aus because it is a relatively safer/cheaper place to bring up my potential family. I have seen the bad things the country has going for it over here, but those bad things are reflected in many other places around the world, albeit to a slightly lesser extent in some cases

But my main point that im rambling on about is that it is hard for us to appreciate what is on our own doorstep wether its UK, Australia, Canada or anywhere. I couldn't find anything to do on the weekends in Aus because it was all the same, you cant find anything to do here because its all the same, but swap and whala!!! Everything is enjoyable, new, exciting, different, intriging. You have a better outlook on everything so all the pressures in life are meaningful.

I can well and truely hear what your saying, but the majority of the problem boils down to having gotten the taste of travelling and being drawn to what you can see UK doesn't have going for it from all of those awesome sights you saw elsewhere!

19. Posted by Eleniki (Full Member 125 posts) 9y

Fabbman, you started this thread - you're so young at 33 - think maybe you should talk to your partner about how you see your immediate future. Do some travelling now, because when the babies come along, that'll be it to the big trips for a while.... Walkaways, I sympathise completely with you - there's only one thing for you to do. Go to Canada, or New Zealand, or wherever, and get yourself a job in the ski or snowboard industry, or whatever outdoor sport you want to be around. Do this until the season changes, and with the season, change your job. You will not look back. Live your life, now, not sometime in the future, or someplace in your head. You know the saying: just do it.

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