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1. Posted by jaxstar (Full Member, 74 posts) 15 Jun '07 03:30

hey there...

ive never really travelled thru eastern europe before, so i have no idea what to expect... the main thing im wondering about tho, is how much it costs...

how much do you think you can get away with spending every day? i want to start in estonia, and work down the baltic states and then poland, czech, vienna, bratislava, budapest, croatia then maybe to greece and turkey... perhaps go down to egypt, tunisia and morocco....

i know they are alot of different economies there, but im looking to do this on a budget, over 3 or 4 months. im looking to spend maybe 1000euros or something...

any suggestions? places i really need to see? money tips?

2. Posted by Eleritz (Full Member, 55 posts) 15 Jun '07 04:09

1000 euros for 3 months?

it makes some 10 euros a day.

seems unfeasible to me, even on a very tight budget. unless you have free accommodation and hichhike. eastern europe is cheaper than western, but not that cheaper. be prepared to spend some 25-30 euros a day (on a tight budget)

3. Posted by jaxstar (Full Member, 74 posts) 15 Jun '07 05:05

yeah i didnt do any calculations, it was just a number in my head! it might be shorter than than 3-4 months too. it actually probably will be...more like 2 or 3... im just wondering how much its going to cost.

what are the backpackers places like in eastern europe? this may be a naive question to ask, but will i be ok as a single female traveller? in bigger cities imnot worried, but smaller places?

4. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator, 5548 posts) 15 Jun '07 05:31

If you want to do it a bit cheaper, try starting in for example Romania and work your way down to Bulgaria, Turkey and end up in Egypt via Syria and Jordan. Especially Syria and Egypt can be dirt cheap.
You can travel longer on the same budget for sure, because the baltic states and Poland/Czech Rep are much more expensive.

O, by the way, if you want to travel further than Egypt, you have to fly from Egypt to Tunisia (unless you arranged visa and a tour and pick up at the border with Libya). If you want to travel between Tunisia and Morocco you really have to fly, because the border between Algeria and Morocco is closed.

5. Posted by jaxstar (Full Member, 74 posts) 15 Jun '07 05:51

yeah i was wondering about the north african places actually.. i knew that morocco and algeria dont see eye to eye (oil? a war? not sure) and have heard stories to avoid algeria all together. libya also had me worried... i dont really wanna go there, but i was wondering how i was gonna get thru there..

how expensive are the baltic states and poland/czech compared to west europe? i know theyre cheaper, but how much?

also considered going to st petersburg from tallinn... whats the go there?

6. Posted by Eleritz (Full Member, 55 posts) 15 Jun '07 06:00

yes, bulgaria and romania are cheaper, i would also include in this group macedonia and ukraine. but there is a problem with these really cheap eastern european countries - as to accommodation (and entrance fees), they often have separate prices for locals and foreigners, and the difference sometimes is huge.

7. Posted by AdamH77 (Inactive, 41 posts) 15 Jun '07 08:05

Hey, i've only got experience of some of eastern europe, czech republic, slovakia, poland, hungary, austria but i found them to be fairly cheap but not hugely so. mostly due to being in the big cities, in prague you can get some cheap accomodation thats not too bad for 10 to 15 euros a night, where as in cesky crumlov (south of the czech republic), despite being a fairly busy tourist spot you can get good accomodation for 5 to 8 euros a night. you can get cheaper, but then you start getting into unclean and way out of the city centre. food wise, they're cheap if you stay out of the tourist places, in poland make sure you go to the milk bars (bar melzcy or something like that), as you'll get a full 2 course meal for 2 or 3 euros

places to see, krakow is great in poland, warsaw not so much, just a big city. bratislava is ok but not a huge amount to do, you can do it as a day trip from vienna. if you've got any specific questions on these places let me know

8. Posted by Eleritz (Full Member, 55 posts) 15 Jun '07 11:17

yes, bar mleczny is a great value for money in poland, although you must know where to look for them.

another dirt cheap place in eastern europe are restaurants at railway stations, especially in smaller towns.

9. Posted by amorphis (Budding Member, 47 posts) 15 Jun '07 14:07

Hi Jaxstar,
Eleritz already gave you some useful tips about Eastern Europe. Just want to add a few suggestions to it.
An easy "trick" to avoid higher ho(s)tel charges as a foreigner in EE, is to ask a friendly local to do the checking-in for you. Usually they are willing to do so. Have a beer with one one them while the other is doing the 'job' for you. This way I spent a night in a decent hotel in Resita (SW Romania) for about EUR 15.
Concerning food, great value for mone is baklava which you can buy everywhere from street vendors in Bulgarian towns. Tasty stuff, but a bit greasy. So don't take it for breakfast (as I once did...). Together with a local-brand softdrink you pay 70 to 80 eurocents.
Just don't forget to enjoy the country and its people while you travel there at rock-bottom budget. Romania and Bulgaria are just too beautiful to be only busy with cutting expenses.

10. Posted by t_maia (Moderator, 3291 posts) 18 Jun '07 05:58

The problem with buddget accomodation in Ukraine is - there isn't any. Ukrainians tend to stay with friends or family when they travel and hotels are ridiculously expensive (80 USD up). In the 90's there used to be the "komnata" option, ie asking old ladies at train stations (in Russian). But nowadays they have almost disappeared - and very few hostels have sprung up. There is one in Kiev, one on Yalta and IIRC one in Lviv - that's it for the whole country.

As for travelling from Estonia to Egypt as an Aussie - I recommend flying in and out of Berlin (or Germany in general).

It should not be aproblem to find a last minute flight to Egypt from LTUR (www.ltur.com) for less than 200 EUR return. Egypt to Germany is more complicated, but doable - for around 150 EUR one way flying out of one of the resort towns.

Berlin - Baltic area is served by easyjet, btw. Flights from 25 EUR on to Tallin, Riga, etc.

I estimate the cost of travelling (just the train, bus, plane tickets) from Berlin to Estonia to Egypt and back to Europe to be around 1000 EUR, maybe less if you go trough the hassle of getting Star Tickets. Add to this an average budget of 30 EUR per day and person plus visa fees (budget at least another 200 EUR for these) and you know how much you are going to need.

[ Edit: Edited on Jun 18, 2007, at 6:25 AM by t_maia ]