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11. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

This should be enough to call an end to it but, as the quote at the top of the page says, "We don't do body counts."

12. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 9y

Excellent point Tway, but, how do we end it???

Is it just a case of saying "OK, call the troops home!" and that's it all over? Or is a certain element of policing required?

13. Posted by lagered (Budding Member 230 posts) 9y

For those of you not from the US, the initial Iraq operation was called "Operation Iraqi Liberation” hmmmm... O.I.L. Well that and Operation Infinite Justice, but we'll talk about that later.

I’m not suggesting that this war was over oil... but a rather large pipeline seems to be on schedule for construction.

President Bush is trying to save face at this point. If he gives the ok to pull out then he is really saying he was wrong in the first place. My gut feeling tells me this will not happen until Bush is out of office. As soon as a new administration gets into power, they will call for the removal of troops and announce a new direction. (See Vietnam). However, we are starting to see the republican party pull their support away from this war. Funny how when an election starts nearing how their true colors come out. If Bush doesn’t allow the pull out of troops from this unpopular war, the republicans will never win the next election.

14. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting mikeyBoab

Is it just a case of saying "OK, call the troops home!" and that's it all over? Or is a certain element of policing required?

Good question. I don't know - could Iraq survive if troops instantly pull out? Will they continue to need millitary or other support? I'm not even sure what the goal is right now - are troops still "freeing" the Iraqi people? Are they looking for more insurgents? The whole war feels like a farce - something that started under false pretenses (ie - WMDs) and has been dragging on to save face.

I know I'm not really answering your question, but I don't know the answer. I think the only right thing to do is tell the whole truh - why the war was really started, why it's kept up so long, what mistakes were made, how they'll be avoided in the future, and what invading countries plan to do to fix the mess. But...well, good luck with that.

15. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 9y

Perhaps a show of hands :

"All those in favour of continuing the war raise your hands?"

  • Bush and Cheney raise their hands*

"Right, here's your gun. Good luck with that."

16. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting mikeyBoab

Well, the US House of Representatives have voted for a withdrawal of troops by April 2008, yet Bush is standing firm, suggesting that this is merely a reaction to opinion polls.

What should be done?

What should have been done?

I think, the US should not have invaded Iraq, in the first place.
What to do now, I dont know.
It would be in the interest of the US, to withdraw, but neither the US withdrawing or staying will improve things for Iraq.

17. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Peter

Perhaps a show of hands :

"All those in favour of continuing the war raise your hands?"

  • Bush and Cheney raise their hands*

"Right, here's your gun. Good luck with that."

Can we send Rummy the Retired along just for fun??? Maybe he can dazzle everyone with his non-sensical bullshit...

As it's stands, Iraq is really in a civil war already - the outside military presence just over-shadows it. Yes, troop withdrawls need to be undertaken, but there will be no right or wrong way of dong this. It's a matter of controlling the collateral damage in the process which will be an impossible task. I like Peter's approach the best.

18. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Can we send Rummy the Retired along just for fun??? Maybe he can dazzle everyone with his non-sensical bullshit...

Sure, why not. It might just be the ticket. Everyone might crack up laughing and forget what on earth they were fighting for. I know I have.

Or maybe someone should start a laughing club in Baghdad.

19. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Definitely send Rummy. He's such a good shot, he'll probably shoot Bush right in the head. Then Bob's your uncle.

20. Posted by Wonkerer (Respected Member 592 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

Bush...thinking...are you sure

Quoting a magnet off my mother's fridge

Compassionate conservatism is an oxymoron. George (W.) Bush is just a moron.

Here's my two cents. We should never have gone there, especially without a plan. But we've gone there and bleeped things up even more, so now we hold an even larger responsibility. My brother and his friends, who haved served in Iraq, believe that withdrawing troops quickly and without a plan will result in a lot damage being suffered by the poor. I dont' think that solely withdrawing troops in a good enought answer to the problem and I don't think we'll ever have a truly good exit strategy until we get someone else in the White House. But that's just my opinion.

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 13, 2007, at 8:46 AM by Wonkerer ]