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1. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Although I know there is a small forum in the travel guide as well, most members don't read the questions and few answers are given, so that's why I ask them here.

First one: why was the Australia article unfeatured?
Second one (more something of a comment): as you have to write things yourself, just copy paste of another website won't be enough. The Kolkata article is made up of exactly the same text as on another website: indialine.com. It looked so smooth I double checked things. So what to do with this?? As there are copyright rules of course;)

Cheers! Michael.

2. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

First one: why was the Australia article unfeatured?

Good question. I guess it has something to do with the Netherlands article being featured and 'possibly', some issue with the page of wiki featured articles having a limit. But Peter or Eric would have to answer this one to be sure ;)

Quoting Utrecht

Second one (more something of a comment): as you have to write things yourself, just copy paste of another website won't be enough. The Kolkata article is made up of exactly the same text as on another website: indialine.com. It looked so smooth I double checked things. So what to do with this?? As there are copyright rules of course;)

Because we operate with a copyleft license, it can be fine to copy from other sites if they fall under the same license and credit is given as they require. That particular site is not copyleft so the content can't be copied. I had it on my list of things to check today as I briefly looked at it yesterday before rushing out. It shall be removed - that's a big no no!

3. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Actually, I should specify that of course the person copying an article here on Travellerspoint can be the original owner of the work as well, so we'd need to double check that isn't the case before removing content. I see that big parts of that page are copied across multiple sites actually.

4. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Thanks Sam.
The only thing I could come up with about the unfeaturing of Australia, was that some members not being a full member or higher, would like to update some good stuff and asked this at Eric or so.

We'll see about the Kolkata page, haven't looked at all the rules about that copyright/left stuff, so could be to early for my conclusions of course.
Michael

5. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

Thanks Sam.
The only thing I could come up with about the unfeaturing of Australia, was that some members not being a full member or higher, would like to update some good stuff and asked this at Eric or so.

We'll see about the Kolkata page, haven't looked at all the rules about that copyright/left stuff, so could be to early for my conclusions of course.
Michael

I thought that might be a reason as well, but didn't think of it till later ;) I've fixed up the Kolkata page!

6. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 9y

I think one reason why Australia is unfeatured is to allow newly featured articles to have a chance to appear on the featured space. Featured articles are being rotated on that space. If older featured articles are not removed, over time, the number of featured articles will increase, and newly featured ones will have lesser and lesser chance of appearing on the featured space.

Sam, let's create a copycentre licence, then we can copy from both copyright and copyleft licensed articles.

7. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Quoting Hien

Sam, let's create a copycentre licence, then we can copy from both copyright and copyleft licensed articles.

Let's leave that up to Google (YouTube) and wait and see how the dozens of lawsuits against them pan out :)

8. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Quoting Hien

I think one reason why Australia is unfeatured is to allow newly featured articles to have a chance to appear on the featured space. Featured articles are being rotated on that space. If older featured articles are not removed, over time, the number of featured articles will increase, and newly featured ones will have lesser and lesser chance of appearing on the featured space

I understand what you are saying, but somehow I think that would be strange. If I compare it to the featured photos for example, the newly featured photos appear on the front page for a couple of days but this doesn't mean that older photos are unfeatured?
And now there are only 3 (well 2 actually) articles featured so I hope there still is some space.

9. Posted by dr.pepper (Travel Guru 316 posts) 9y

I unfeatured the Australia article to encourage more contributions from people. We'd originally featured it because we needed something to be featured - but then that meant it basically only consisted of 2-3 people's contributions! So in order to make it a little more open, it seemed like a good idea to unfeature it.

As far as I'm aware, there's no limit on the number of articles that can be featured. If there is, it's definitely much more than 3!

I'll probably unfeature articles from time to time as the standard of our featured articles continues to improve. For example, I think both the Canada and Netherlands articles are better resources than the Australia article.

Hope that makes sense!

Eric

10. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 9y

Yeah, what Eric said :) The Australia article is fairly complete, but in my opinion not really up to the standard of the Netherlands or Canada articles. It makes sense to try and ensure the standard of featured articles is as high as possible, so removing the Australia one lifts the average quality of the featured articles.

And regarding the randomness of the main page - this will indeed work in the same way that the photos work. It will select a random featured article from the last 20 featured articles. So until there are more than 20 articles, you won't notice this effect.