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1. Posted by MarkBate24 (Budding Member 12 posts) 9y

Hi guys, thanks for the fantastic responses to the posts I have posted previously.

We are now at the planning stages of where to go, giving serious thoughts to all of the countries in South East Asia.

We are looking at seeing:

• Thailand (extensively – beaching and diving in the south, trekking and cooking in the North – we also want to do the Mekong River trip; best route into Laos?)

• Cambodia (to the see the beautiful temples)

• Vietnam – would like to see from the South to the North but would be satisfied with seeing the best bits in order

• Laos – to see the more traditional, less touristy parts.

Because these countries all border one another, we were thinking its going to be easy to plan where to go on each part of the trip. However, because of the proximity with Thailand in the south, we’d like to see Malaysia, and then Singapore, and then Indonesia because they all follow on from each other.

We were thinking its going to be easier to get to Indonesia and then fly to Bangkok, saving us the trip on the road doubling back on ourselves?

We then want to go to Hong Kong because we have friends there, and then if possible, go to Shanghai, and then if possible, go to Tokyo.

The question is, how the hell do I plan an itinerary with all that in it?!

If anyone has any suggested routes, ideas, for the best/quickest/cheaper modes of travel, that would be great.

We have a timescale of 4 months and a budget of about £4000-6000 each.

2. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello MarkBate:)

What I suggest is, dont try to see everything.
Just get from point to point and see the things that are interesting, on the way.
I would do something like the following. Fly into Thailand. Head north by bus or train. Then into Laos, accross Laos, down through Vietnam, into Cambodia, down Cambodia, aand then back into Thailand, then down Thailand by bus or train towards Malaysia(warning: there have been some danger reports about the Malaysian Thai border, so be aware of them). etc
Just make yourself a simple map, and plot a route on it, and mark whatever tourist attactions u want to see on it.

Mel

3. Posted by t-trippin (Budding Member 19 posts) 9y

Hey

I'm so excited for you. I'm just back from squeezing in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia (inc. Sabah) Singapore and Tokyo in 9 weeks! Not recommended though as I was shattered when I got home.

I found Air Asia to be absolutley fantastic, good service and cheap prices - if you book in well advance. It can be cheaper than the train (not the bus obviously), but you save so much time and energy. You can get so many flights to and from KL. So if you got a flight into there directly and did Indo and Borneo from that base and then over land ( or use Air A.) up towards Thailand then Laos, Cambodia - Mekong River to Saigon and up the length of Vietnam then into China. Just a suggestion.

I enjoyed Cambodia - mostly the temples of course but try to get to PP for a day or two if you can. It's good to see a different side to this country - we all need to remember :-(

Malaysia was fantastic, so diverse warm and friendly. My favourite was Sabah. You need to try and book in advance if you want to see the turtles hatching.

In Vietnam I'd definitely recommend the Easy Riders - they are so informative and you'll get to places you'd never manage by public transport. Also don't miss out on Dalat and Hoi An( I'm in heaven remembering the tailors )

If you do manage to get to Toyko.. make sure you keep plenty of cash put aside for it... it's bloody expensive compared to the other places you plan to visit. I left there without a penny to my name.

Best of Luck.. I'm so jealous ;)

4. Posted by MarkBate24 (Budding Member 12 posts) 9y

Quoting t-trippin

Hey

I'm so excited for you. I'm just back from squeezing in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia (inc. Sabah) Singapore and Tokyo in 9 weeks! Not recommended though as I was shattered when I got home.

I found Air Asia to be absolutley fantastic, good service and cheap prices - if you book in well advance. It can be cheaper than the train (not the bus obviously), but you save so much time and energy. You can get so many flights to and from KL. So if you got a flight into there directly and did Indo and Borneo from that base and then over land ( or use Air A.) up towards Thailand then Laos, Cambodia - Mekong River to Saigon and up the length of Vietnam then into China. Just a suggestion.

I enjoyed Cambodia - mostly the temples of course but try to get to PP for a day or two if you can. It's good to see a different side to this country - we all need to remember :-(

Malaysia was fantastic, so diverse warm and friendly. My favourite was Sabah. You need to try and book in advance if you want to see the turtles hatching.

In Vietnam I'd definitely recommend the Easy Riders - they are so informative and you'll get to places you'd never manage by public transport. Also don't miss out on Dalat and Hoi An( I'm in heaven remembering the tailors )

If you do manage to get to Toyko.. make sure you keep plenty of cash put aside for it... it's bloody expensive compared to the other places you plan to visit. I left there without a penny to my name.

Best of Luck.. I'm so jealous ;)

That sounds amazing, we'll be going for 12 weeks so hopefully we can try and avoid a little bit of that "squeezing"....my qiestion is how much did you take? Just curious considering Tokyo depleted your funds so much...and it will be the last stop on our route I'd think...

5. Posted by MarkBate24 (Budding Member 12 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Hello MarkBate:)

What I suggest is, dont try to see everything.
Just get from point to point and see the things that are interesting, on the way.
I would do something like the following. Fly into Thailand. Head north by bus or train. Then into Laos, accross Laos, down through Vietnam, into Cambodia, down Cambodia, aand then back into Thailand, then down Thailand by bus or train towards Malaysia(warning: there have been some danger reports about the Malaysian Thai border, so be aware of them). etc
Just make yourself a simple map, and plot a route on it, and mark whatever tourist attactions u want to see on it.

Mel

Sounds good - is it possible to get into Laos via the Mekong River?

6. Posted by t-trippin (Budding Member 19 posts) 9y

I spent about 6000 euros inc flights. I was travelling alone, so it will be cheaper if there are a few of you travelling together. For example, a room might cost $10, alone I pay that, divide between two and you are laughing.

Regarding the Mekong river - you can cross into Laos in N. Thailalnd and get the boat to L.P.... takes about 2 days.
Also you can take a boat from PP in Cambodia to Saigon it takes about two days also, but the scenery and locals are completely different in the Delta. (You could do both) If you get out that direction try to go to a Cao Dai temple. Strange but interesting.

I got so much info from this site and also from my bible... "The Lonley Planet"... Shoestring - South East Asia gives you a grounding but not enough that you'll be relying on it and missing out on your own adventures.

I only spent 48 hours in Tokyo, not enough by far, but a room in a dorm with 7 other girls cost about $50.

My problem was I really went to town in Perth when I hooked up with friends for 10 days. I hadn't had a beer in the 10 weeks previous (girl alone) therefore I really went to town...... So by the time I got to Tokyo I was at the end of my purse. My own fault

7. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting MarkBate24

Quoting Mel.

Hello MarkBate:)

What I suggest is, dont try to see everything.
Just get from point to point and see the things that are interesting, on the way.
I would do something like the following. Fly into Thailand. Head north by bus or train. Then into Laos, accross Laos, down through Vietnam, into Cambodia, down Cambodia, aand then back into Thailand, then down Thailand by bus or train towards Malaysia(warning: there have been some danger reports about the Malaysian Thai border, so be aware of them). etc
Just make yourself a simple map, and plot a route on it, and mark whatever tourist attactions u want to see on it.

Mel

Sounds good - is it possible to get into Laos via the Mekong River?

Hello MarkBate

I will let somebody else answer that, because I have not yet travelled overland, from Thailand to Laos.

Mel