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1. Posted by makka (Respected Member 248 posts) 9y

Panasonic LUMIX DMC FZ7

so im going travelling round the world soon, and really am looking for a nice little camera to capture the amazing moments on my journey ....

looking @ taking alot of pictures of the ocean, wildlife, and general things that will remind me of such good times im going to of had

can anyone advise me on this camera, i saw it a local shop in the high street, had a talk with the assistant, and they advised me this would be a good one as the lens is one of the best and it has a 12x Zoom .... then they started to get all technical, but i was in over my head really as im not very educated with photography etc...

any help would be much appriciated!

2. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4817 posts) 9y

dpreview gives it a "recommended" rating (which is decent, if not really good), and notes very noisy results (and loss of quality due to noise reduction attempts). Assuming the price is equivalent (which it should be; yup, £7 more), you might want to prefer its successor, the FZ8 instead, as dpreview gives that a "highly recommended". It still is noisy, but it has a raw mode, which allows you to do clean up yourself.
Now, early on this won't matter to you at all, but if you find yourself getting interested in photography and learning, then the FZ8 allows you to get way more quality out of your pictures than the FZ7 would.

For both cameras, as the very first thing to do, go into its preferences, and turn the noise reduction (NR) setting to "low". Once you've done that, either camera should provide very acceptable quality photos, definitely on par with or even above what you'd get with most other cameras for that price.

3. Posted by makka (Respected Member 248 posts) 9y

thanks buddy - really what i wanted to hear, i done some research on the net also and found the FZ8 to with very little difference in price... i think thats the one i shall purchase

what do u mean by 'noise' - the noise the camera makes when taking the actual photo im guessing?

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4817 posts) 9y

No, "noise" in photography terms means the amount of 'graininess' a photo has. Individual pixels which show up as not exactly the color you saw, but slightly lighter or darker. Think "snow" on a TV - that's the absolute worst possible case of (white) noise. Now imagine that being almost completely transparent - but not quite - and overlaid on a photo.
All cameras experience this to some extent if you crank up their sensitivity ("high ISO") so they can take photos when the light isn't too good, but these little point and shoot cameras even have it as their lowest sensitivity, while that should ordinarily give the smoothest picture. Now, what these cameras do to still get the appearance of a smooth picture is to apply some software trickery to remove the noise from the photo (called "noise reduction"), but they aren't very good at it, causing them to not only remove the noise, but also some actual details that the photograph had shown, which is a cure far worse than the original problem.
Hence the recommendation to turn down the noise reduction setting.

5. Posted by makka (Respected Member 248 posts) 9y

well i was expecting that reply haha!!

as i thought - photography details are not what they seem, all very interesting,. and reducing the 'noise level' is something i shall do once i recieve the FZ8

many thanks for your help buddy!

6. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

You know Sander, we should go into business selling cameras.

7. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4817 posts) 9y

That'd be dangerous. We'd have to stock the D300...

8. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Quoting Sander

That'd be dangerous. We'd have to stock the D300...

And the D3.

Maybe we can get some "demo" bodies ?

9. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 9y

Quoting Q'

Quoting Sander

That'd be dangerous. We'd have to stock the D300...

And the D3.

Maybe we can get some "demo" bodies ?

Call it the 'Nikon Boy's' camera shop

10. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 9y

BUY it
It is a great camera for travelling