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31. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

If you want to replace Madrid with Barcelona, then that is possible: There are a couple of flight to both Granada and Sevilla. So you could fly Barcelona - Granada (train to Sevilla) and back to Barcelona if you need to, or fly out of Sevilla.

I'm wondering if there will be enough time for Alhambra (Granada), Seville, etc. What is the flight time/train time between Barcelona and Seville/Granada? I'm presuming much longer.

32. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 9y

Forgive me - but I always thought that flights from the US always went to Madrid? Ie you would have to change planes in Madrid to get to Seville or Barcelona if you are flying in from the US and the other way around? Or at least have the plane land in Madrid, have other passengers board or disembark while you twiddle your thumbs and wait for the second take-off?

In any case I would carefully check times and ticket prices because flying into Madrid and taking the train to Seville (or any other destination) might work out to be cheaper and faster than flying into.

Edit: Iberia gives a flight time of 3-6 hours for Barcelona-Granada, depending upon the delay in Madrid. (You need to change in Madrid.) Madrid-Granada and Barcelona-Madrid are both about 1 hr by plane give or take a few minutes.

See www.iberia.com and www.skyscanner.net for flights.

Vueling flies direct for 30 EUR at 06:00 hrs daily from Barcelona to Granada and returns to Barc. at 13:55. Flight time is 1:25 hrs.

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 4, 2007, at 8:22 PM by t_maia ]

33. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 9y

Quoting t_maia

Forgive me - but I always thought that flights from the US always went to Madrid? Ie you would have to change planes in Madrid to get to Seville or Barcelona if you are flying in from the US and the other way around? Or at least have the plane land in Madrid, have other passengers board or disembark while you twiddle your thumbs and wait for the second take-off?

In any case I would carefully check times and ticket prices because flying into Madrid and taking the train to Seville (or any other destination) might work out to be cheaper and faster than flying into.

Edit: Iberia gives a flight time of 3-6 hours for Barcelona-Granada, depending upon the delay in Madrid. (You need to change in Madrid.) Madrid-Granada and Barcelona-Madrid are both about 1 hr by plane give or take a few minutes.

See www.iberia.com and www.skyscanner.net for flights.

Vueling flies direct for 30 EUR at 06:00 hrs daily from Barcelona to Granada and returns to Barc. at 13:55. Flight time is 1:25 hrs.

You're right, I just confirmed with my wife and she said that the tickets that we were looking at all flies into Madrid first before going to Seville (or Barcelona or another location).

I guess if we were to consider the train, is the train station near by?

34. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 9y

The Spanish Railway Network (RENFE) does not run directly to the Madrid-Barajas Airport. Nonetheless, the long-distance, AVE and suburban train stations are accessible in just a few minutes using the Underground.

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35. Posted by LittleHote (Inactive 78 posts) 9y

I suppose the fundamental question is "What are you coming to Spain for?"

If you're interested in cities, I would suggest Sevilla, Cordoba and Granada.
In the case of the Alhambra, allow a day for visiting, half a day in the Alhambra itself and alf a day for strolling around the general area and getting yourself to and from the Alhambra itself. Hotels in Granada will usually pre-book tickets for you, which is the easiest way to organise it.

If you want to see wonderful scenery, you can really just wander about almost anywhere in Andalucia. There are so many places, it's hard to suggest things. However, even a hardened country-lover should see the Alhambra, so why not base yourself somewhere in the general Granada area. That would allow you to stroll through the Sierra Nevada, Alpujarras, down to the coast (carefully selecting one of the unspoilt parts), Serrania de Ronda, etc, etc, etc.

As you're coming from the USA, you may have to fly into Madrid. Though of course you could just pass through the airport and take an internal flight straight to Sevilla or Granada (or Malaga or Almeria). I don't think Madrid (the city) is worth eating up time out of a one week holiday.

You can get a lot of guidance about the likely weather from -snip-. In summary, you should get good weather most of the time, but in November there is certainly the possibility of a wave of more turbulent weather passing through (that usually only lasts a day, though). If you look at the individual hotel pages on the Little Hotels of Spain website, you will find links to more detailed weather for particular areas.

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36. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 9y

As somebody already explained the flight time between Barcelona - Granada and Madrid - Granada, aren't that different. (esp. if you keep in mind: getting to the airport, check-in, lugage claim etc). Around an hour is normal.

To take the train in Madrid to go to Sevilla, you need to get to Atocha-Station, just south of the city center. From Barajas Airport this means you need about an hour to get there, if you take the metro.

37. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

As somebody already explained the flight time between Barcelona - Granada and Madrid - Granada, aren't that different. (esp. if you keep in mind: getting to the airport, check-in, lugage claim etc). Around an hour is normal.

To take the train in Madrid to go to Sevilla, you need to get to Atocha-Station, just south of the city center. From Barajas Airport this means you need about an hour to get there, if you take the metro.

Everyone:

I don't mean to complicate matters even more but I am trying to maximize my trip without being a tourist rushing to one place to another place rushing and rushing and rushing. Although Barcelona will be missed, I think I will focus that on another trip, perhaps Madrid, Toledo, Barcelona another time.

In addition, the way I calculate everything, 1 hour at the departure aiport and an 1 hour at the arrival airport, 2+ flight time and then settling in, we're looking at about half a day already.

For 7 days that we have, we will just focus on the Andalucia portion of Spain. Head down to Seville, see the surrounding area, Cordoba and the Alhambra.

Here is what we have so far...

Seville about 2 days
Cordoba 2 days
Alhambra 2 days

Part of the two days, we expect to roam around the country side.

Very general but will go into details in a few. What do you think of these so far?

38. Posted by KineAgathe (Full Member 21 posts) 9y

Just a little comment...
Alhambra is in Granada ;)
And remember to buy tickets in advance.
Heres a link that might help you

http://granadainfo.com/ticketsalhambra.htm

39. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 9y

Where is Cordoba in this whole thing?

40. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 9y

Quoting nutsnbolts

Where is Cordoba in this whole thing?

Take a look at the map here, click on the names of the cities and read or print out the description of the sights:

http://lexicorient.com/spain/index.htm

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 5, 2007, at 6:24 PM by t_maia ]