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51. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

http://www.avaaz.org/en/stand_with_burma/t.php?cl=21723169

52. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Permission has been given, to post the following message from a Burmese citizen

Dear Mel,

Monk arrested list (Sept 26 to 30)

Several monks were arrested during the demonstration at Sinmin market in Alone township on September 27, 2007. Rangoon

20 monks were arrested during the demonstration at near Sula pagoda on September 26, 2007

30 monks from Zambyuaye monastery located in North Okkalapa-Rangoon

300 monks from monasteries located in North Okkalapa township-Rangoon

Several monks from Yawale monastery located in Dawpone township – Rangoon Aye Zaydi monastery from Kyitmyindine, Rangoon

Over 100 monks from monasteries from Bahmo, Moe Hnyinand Myitkyinar located in Kachin State

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Dear Friends,

I have just read and signed the online petition:

"An appeal to the UN Security Council to protect the people of Burma"

hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/9848/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.

Best wishes,

53. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Permission has been given to post the following message, from a Burmese citizen

My opinion!

Dear Mel,

Pls stand for Myanmar people, but i belive that just pressure to your goverment is not enough and just discuss also not enough, they have a lot of reason, not MR. Gambri ( UN ), he still doesnt meet with the 2 biggest from Military. I dont think Mr. Gambri will get success to discuss with them, they will give a lot of promise and when Mr. Gambri leave they will do as usual.

Better send army or by strong force to Myanmar Government. Just close economy is also only effects to civilians. For Military, they will not suffer, coz they have a lot of natural resources to sell. They usually sell to China. Only people have a lot of problems for living, food and all that. They have to struggle their lives very hard. So close economy is nothing effect to them.

Just change another goverment will not be useful, better change system, we need Human rights and Decomarcy.

Pls think the way for Myanmar.

Best Regards

54. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

The following was sent by private mail, from the Burmese member of TP, whose messages I have permission to post.
A link did not come with it, just the following information.

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE

Monday, October 1, 2007
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE

AI Index: ASA 16/016/2007 (Public)
News Service No: 187
1 October 2007

Myanmar: Amnesty International calls for comprehensive international arms embargo
Amnesty International is today urging the United Nations Security Council to immediately impose a comprehensive and mandatory arms embargo on Myanmar, as accounts mount of killings, serious injuries and mass detentions of peaceful protestors by the Myanmar authorities.Amnesty International is also calling on the principal suppliers of arms to Myanmar, in particular China and India, in addition to Russia, Serbia, Ukraine and ASEAN nations, to prohibit the involvement of their agencies, companies and nationals in the direct and indirect supply of military and security equipment, munitions and expertise, including transfers claimed to be 'non-lethal', to Myanmar.

Amnesty International is also calling on the principal suppliers of arms to Myanmar, in particular China and India, in addition to Russia, Serbia, Ukraine and ASEAN nations, to prohibit the involvement of their agencies, companies and nationals in the direct and indirect supply of military and security equipment, munitions and expertise, including transfers claimed to be 'non-lethal', to Myanmar.

"An unambiguous message must be sent urgently to Myanmar military leaders that their brutal crackdown on peaceful protestors will not be tolerated or fuelled by any member of the international community," said Irene Khan, Secretary General of Amnesty International.

Although official reports speak about nine people killed, Amnesty International fears the actual number of fatalities is far higher. Over the past week, Myanmar security forces have raided monasteries and attacked peaceful demonstrators, firing live bullets as well as tear gas and beating protesters with batons. At least 1,000 people are believed to have been arrested in Yangon alone. There is a grave risk that security forces will continue arrests and react with escalating violence to any further demonstrations calling for democratic reforms.

“It is unacceptable for states to continue to supply arms to a government that is already responsible for persistent serious violations of human rights and which now resorts to violence against peaceful demonstrators,“ said Ms. Khan.

"A comprehensive arms embargo should remain in place until the Government of Myanmar takes concrete steps to improve the human rights protection of all, including the release of all prisoners of conscience," said Irene Khan.

The European Union (EU) and USA imposed embargoes on the direct and indirect supply of military items to Myanmar in 1988 and 1993 respectively, which need to be strictly imposed.

Demonstrations continue against the backdrop of persistent and massive human rights violations that have taken place before the current crisis. These include the prolonged detention of over 1,160 political prisoners held in deteriorating prison conditions; the continued detention of Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Daw Aung San Suu Kyi and other senior opposition figures who are prisoners of conscience; extrajudicial executions; and the widespread use of torture. There is also endemic suppression of freedom of expression throughout the country. Use of forced labour and child soldiers continue. There is evidence that military operations in eastern Kayin (Karen) state have involved acts against civilians that constitute violations of international humanitarian and human rights law on a scale that amounts to crimes against humanity. Access by independent observers and international human rights organizations to many parts of the country continues to be denied.
Background:

China
Since 1988, China has supplied the army in Myanmar with a wide range of military equipment, including tanks, armoured personnel carriers and artillery pieces such as howitzers, anti-tank guns, anti-aircraft guns and jet aircraft according to published sources. China has not regularly reported its arms transfers to the United Nations.

India
In January 2007, the Indian Foreign Minister promised to give a "favourable response" to the Myanmar Government’s request for military equipment, and in April military forces from Indian and Myanmar were conducting joint military exercises. Reports refer to an Indian agreement to supply a variety of military hardware such as tanks, aircraft, artillery guns, radar, small arms and an 'Advanced Light Helicopter' which is highly likely to contain components, technology and munitions originating from member states of the European Union and the USA.

Russian Federation
Also in 2007, the Russian Federation reported to the UN that it exported 100 large calibre artillery systems to Myanmar during 2006. Russia also exported ten combat aircraft in 2002, four combat aircraft in 2001, and the Russian MIG military aircraft company had a representative office in Myanmar in October 2006.

Serbia
Between 2004 and 2006, Serbia supplied Myanmar with large amounts of military weapons and munitions, including ammunition, according to customs data.

Ukraine
In April 2004, the Ukrainian state owned arms company, UkrpetsExport, agreed a ten year contract to supply 1,000 armoured personnel carriers to be assembled in Myanmar as part of a deal worth reportedly in excess of US$500 million, and in 2004 Ukraine told the United Nations that it had exported ten BTR-3U armoured combat vehicles and ten R-27 missiles to Myanmar in 2003.

Public Document

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For more information please call Amnesty International's press office in London, UK, on +44 20 7413 5566
Amnesty International, 1 Easton St., London WC1X 0DW. web: http://www.amnesty.org

For latest human rights news view http://news.amnesty.org

01.10.2007

55. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

I have permission to post this private message I have received from a Burmese member of TP

Thanks!

Dear Mel,
Thanks for your trying hard about Myanmar, at this moment we really need help from all over the world.
We also want Human rights like other country, we also want to get same chance and wants to express our feelings to public.
Best Regards

Another message, from the same person

Dear Mel,

Monday, October 1, 2007
Burma: Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle

Last updated at 01:24am on 1st October 2007
Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.
The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: 'Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand.'
Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.
Reports from other exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply ' disappeared' as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.
Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.
There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.
Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.
There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.
In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay - centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week - were virtually deserted yesterday.
A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.
Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. 'The Burma revolt is over,' she added.
'The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.
'Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear.'

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 1, 2007, at 7:27 AM by Mel. ]

56. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Permission has been given to post the following message, from a Burmese citizen

My opinion!

Dear Mel,

Pls stand for Myanmar people, but i belive that just pressure to your goverment is not enough and just discuss also not enough, they have a lot of reason, not MR. Gambri ( UN ), he still doesnt meet with the 2 biggest from Military. I dont think Mr. Gambri will get success to discuss with them, they will give a lot of promise and when Mr. Gambri leave they will do as usual.

Better send army or by strong force to Myanmar Government. Just close economy is also only effects to civilians. For Military, they will not suffer, coz they have a lot of natural resources to sell. They usually sell to China. Only people have a lot of problems for living, food and all that. They have to struggle their lives very hard. So close economy is nothing effect to them.

Just change another goverment will not be useful, better change system, we need Human rights and Decomarcy.

Pls think the way for Myanmar.

Best Regards

This is an example of a post which has ceased to be informative about the actual events ocurring in Myanmar. It is now heavily bordering on using you to convey personal opinions/political agendas, Mel. This is what I hoped would not occur and can not occur without edit/deletions. That particular groundrule was laid out earlier, in this thread and via PMs. Thank you.

57. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Allright, I will post no more like that one. ;)

58. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Details on http://freeburma.stots.de/doku.php

International bloggers are preparing an action to support the peaceful revolution in Burma. They want to set a sign for freedom and show their sympathy for these people who are fighting their cruel regime without weapons. These Bloggers are planning to refrain from posting to their blogs on October 4 and just put up one Banner then, underlined with the words „Free Burma!“.

59. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

http://ko-htike.blogspot.com/2007/09/where-is-gambari-where-is-he-going-how.html

60. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/ThaiTalk/2007/10/01/entry-2

http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 1, 2007, at 11:03 AM by Mel. ]