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11. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 8y

Quoting jl98584

...I'm trying to update my blog for today and I find myself having lots of second thoughts - 'better not use that one, it's not quite good enough', or that I'm also spending more time working on the descriptions in case it shows up somewhere else!

Ah, don't worry about that. After all, I posted this photo of nothing for no other reason than it fit in my blog. Not to mention my cartoon collection...

Cat

Bears

New Jersey's Liberty Airport Sucks # 1

New Jersey's Liberty Airport Sucks # 2

New Jersey's Liberty Airport Sucks # 3

New Jersey's Liberty Airport Sucks # 4

And, noone appreciated my beer collection as much as I do.. Mmmmm.... Beer...

Greg

12. Posted by jl98584 (Travel Guru 114 posts) 8y

Hmm, it is kind of nice to know I'm not the only blogger out there uploading 'non professional' photos! I don't think I'm quite ready for cartoons or beer (or old shoes as another blogger mentioned), but I do occasionally upload pictures of signs (I try to avoid it, I mostly use my shots of signs just to help me remember the details to put in the descriptions of real photo's, but sometimes it's just easier to show the sign).

It's all good tho, maybe I get my nose bent out of shape for a few minutes, but I'm one of those people who needs an occasional kick in the pants to change my bad habits, so this will probably improve the quality of my work somewhat. I finally did go out and check the Photography section and found quite a few of my shots (probably because I'm actively on a trip right now), at least the original poster (OP?) didn't complain about all of them (or did he just not have enough time?) Personally, I wouldn't have featured some of the fall foliage ones, I'm still trying to figure out how to shot those without having all the colors wash out (filters again I suppose).

btw - my camera is not a DSLR, but it does take some filters, which I have - I'm just am not competent with them yet.

- Signing out for the night, it's past midnight and I still have 6 1/2 months of traveling to do! Thanks to all for your words of encouragement.

13. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4811 posts) 8y

Quoting jl98584

I finally did go out and check the Photography section and found quite a few of my shots (probably because I'm actively on a trip right now), at least the original poster (OP?) didn't complain about all of them (or did he just not have enough time?)

Oh, c'mon, I'm not that mean. I'm sorry it was your photos I used as an example here, I really am. Please forgive me? *puts on puppy-dog eyes* :)

And for the record, there's quite a few of your featured photos which I think are absolutely stunning. The two badlands photos sing out to me (I had no idea that existed, and totally need to go there! so gorgeous!), and I love this shot of Glacier National Park, and as far as the fall foliage photos go, this one is right up there with the best on the site. (The all-white sky is a shame, but hard to do much about; you really need a blue-skied day with the sun behind you to not get that.)

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 18, 2007, at 4:16 AM by Sander ]

14. Posted by marlis (Travel Guru 1167 posts) 8y

to all of you in this discussion!

please do not blame 5 people on this,

it was me who did the featuring of all this photos,and many more before.(since August 07 to be exactly)would many of them NOT choose for a photo competition,
but this is not a contest ,right?We all know that while traveling we have seldom the conditions for the perfect shot but the photo still gives information about the location.

If the other 4 think that I feature the wrong photos they are able to unfeature them
anytime.

Marlis

[ Edit: edited by marlis ]

15. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

The obvious 'issue' is that there are no set criteria. The main reason for this is that, well, we never considered it needed. Obviously as the site grows, and specifically the volume of photos uploaded has grown!, that's probably something that is needed. That, and of course Sander volunteering as a photography moderator? :)

Marlis is right about the unfeaturing. I've unfeatured photos from time to time, sometimes my own which were featured back in the day when there weren't that many photos. Every now and then I'll look through a gallery and unfeature photos for assorted reasons. One should remember though that photos are usually featured at totally different times, so you're not necessarily going into country galleries and seeing if there are other photos that show the same thing. Personally I don't think that matters, since unless they were all uploaded near each other, they'll be spread throughout the gallery anyway.

In all honesty, I don't do much featuring of photos, so I should probably leave this discussion to my fellow admin who do (Peter/Eric)...

By the way jl98584, you are certainly NOT alone! 95% + of the photos uploaded are uploaded for personal reasons (show to family/friends etc.). That's what the system is also primarily intended for - heck, I upload nearly only personal photos of late! There's plenty of other places to go to upload professional photos :)

16. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4811 posts) 8y

Quoting Sam I Am

Obviously as the site grows, and specifically the volume of photos uploaded has grown!, that's probably something that is needed. That, and of course Sander volunteering as a photography moderator? :)

*laughs* I'd rather not; at least not as a result of this discussion in which I'm being all kinds of mean to people, even though I'm trying hard not to be. I don't want to be "rewarded" (punished?) for that.
(Ask me again in a month if it's a serious request.) :)

Marlis is right about the unfeaturing. I've unfeatured photos from time to time, sometimes my own which were featured back in the day when there weren't that many photos. Every now and then I'll look through a gallery and unfeature photos for assorted reasons.

That seems to me to be a "hard" thing to do as a photo moderator, though. As in, you're disagreeing with the judgement made by another photo moderator. Doing it years afterwards as "cleanup" should be okay, but without clear guidelines I'd have serious doubts about unfeaturing photos, no matter how much I personally would be of the opinion that they needed it. Much better to have roughly the same idea of what's worth featuring in the first place.

17. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

Well, it all comes back to what we want the featured photos for. It conceivable to have some sort of more rigorous voting scheme where the moderators vote on images. We did that during the calendar thing last year, and it worked somewhat well. Or periodic cleanups of the featured list. Or some other scheme.

I don't think anyone is being mean to bring these points up. The job of featuring a photo is judging something. And all judges have their judgements questioned from time to time. Which is a good thing in my mind as it often leads to evolution and maturity of the way things are judged.

18. Posted by jl98584 (Travel Guru 114 posts) 8y

Quoting Sander

Oh, c'mon, I'm not that mean. I'm sorry it was your photos I used as an example here, I really am. Please forgive me? *puts on puppy-dog eyes*

No need to forgive as you didn't do anything wrong. Once I got over the shock of seeing my photo's listed in a rant about featuring bad photo's, I actually agree with you in terms whether they should have been featured or not. I almost didn't upload the Egg Rock Lighthouse photo because the quality was so poor even for my own blog.

I've been so busy just trying to keep my travel blog up to date, I haven't really used the other features of Travellerspoint, so had never even looked at the Photography section. Since my focus is keeping a journal of this 'once in a lifetime' trip (for me anyway), I don't really care if my photo's get featured or not. Just a foolish pride thing to see my work used as an example of poor work (which it was), and is maybe a nudge for me to keep trying to get better.

So not using or thinking about the 'Featured' sections of this web site, but just reading the other comments that have been posted, IMHO we shouldn't try to overwhelm folks with too many photo's that don't really add value to that section. I have a similar problem just trying to decide what photo's to upload - I shoot a lot, then have to narrow it down to the ones that add to the blog (or sometimes might be useful for other purposes).

Maybe for something like this you could go to a two step process to decide which photo's to feature? Have one moderator look through the new photo's and flag the ones he (or she?) thinks are worth featuring, then have another review just those flagged photo's and actually decide which ones to post. This would cut down the volumn some, add a little more quality control and not put it all on one person. I don't know how much trouble it would be to implement something like that however, just a thought.

I generally think it's better to keep rules to a minimum, you might need a few - but a review process might be enough without restricting yourselves too much with rules. Just my opinion.

19. Posted by dr.pepper (Travel Guru 316 posts) 8y

I'm glad to see this topic raised, and also to see everyone being pretty civil about it... I know it's a bit of a sensitive issue on a few levels.

While I don't feature photos, I do look through all the featured photos each week, and I have noticed a few come through which I personally don't think should have been featured. I know I could potentially go through and unfeature those, but I think this is a less than ideal way of going about it. The photo moderators are doing a great job, so to just go and unfeature photos they have featured seems, well, kind of rude... Certainly not conducive to a happy relationship!

Most of you seem to agree that a set of guidelines would be good to have, so perhaps we could try to come up with a bunch of basic principles moderators can use when deciding whether or not to feature photos. Q listed his guidelines, which are a good starting point:

1) General guidelines of good taste (ie. no nudity, etc.)
2) Good travel photographs, which is a whole genre in itself.
3) Photographs which will attract people to Travellerspoint.com

Anyone care to add to that?

Eric

20. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

Quoting dr.pepper

Q listed his guidelines, which are a good starting point:

1) General guidelines of good taste (ie. no nudity, etc.)
2) Good travel photographs, which is a whole genre in itself.
3) Photographs which will attract people to Travellerspoint.com

Anyone care to add to that?

I agree with Jeanette's suggestion that we keep guidelines to a minimum. So I think Q's should be pretty much it.

We must also bear in mind that not all travellers have very good photography equipment and skills. With that I think photography moderators should be ready to cut some slack on photos which meet the above guidelines but are less than "perfect" on the quality. After all, this is a travel community site, not a photography community site, so I think we should not put too much emphasis on the skills when featuring a photo.