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1. Posted by severin (Budding Member, 2 posts) 10 Aug '04 05:11

severin has indicated that this thread is about Romania

Hey everybody!
I've heard strange stories about romanian border crossings: there is two kinds, national and international ones. Only the international ones are open to foreigners, while the national ones can be passed only by romanians and citizens of the neighbouring country.
Does anybody know anything about this?

The next thing concerns especially our plans to travel to ukraine. The only international crossing is located in Siret. So there are know means of shortcutting our way to the black sea through romania, cause (as neither romanians nor ukrainians) we're not allowed to leave romania to ukraine.
Or does anyone know of another way of getting into southern ukraine, say in the Tulcea region? Or is it possible to get a moldavian transit visa directly on the border?

Thanks for your help,

Severin

2. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru, 1108 posts) 10 Aug '04 06:53

Hello
i have been to Romania a few times comin/going from Hungary and flying direct to Bucharest. iv never had a problem with either entry. nor have I heard of anything about this?

check out this site for more info - http://www.spirit.ro

sorry i cant help with the Ukraine.

3. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member, 267 posts) 10 Aug '04 10:07

Best border cross. I took the train from Bucharest to Kiev. This jerky at the hostel told me that all trains go through Moldova. not the case, so i paid 35 usd to get a transit visa i didnt need. The line passed from Suceava to Chernistsi. The train had to stop for 2 1/2 hrs since they need to lift every carridge onto a crane and change the wheels to the more narrow Russian standard. We drank Vodka and ate this good smoked fish with the border control guards while we waited. They like to make pracitce on english and were really funny. I was deterred from trying to cross the border along the black Sea coast. There are only buses that are totally unreliable, sometimes they dont run for a couple weeks. If you want to cross there, it was suggested to have very capable language skills. I didnt have any problem with a Swiss passport and there were people from Russia and Albania that had no problem either. I have not heard any sort of dual border laws before. Where did you hear this? Can not buy Moldova transit visa at the border. It will cost alot to grease the control officer, not really worth it. Its a bit of a outta the way jaunt to goto Kiev if your going to Crimea, but to avoid potential trouble crossing at Izmayil it may work for you.
Daniel

4. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru, 1108 posts) 10 Aug '04 10:12

Right on Moscow meter!

this is why I love travelin the east - buses delayed, paying for border passings, vodka with X-KGB.

cant wait to go!

5. Posted by severin (Budding Member, 2 posts) 10 Aug '04 10:22

Hi!
Thanks so far. I've heard about this strange regulation in some cyclists' forum (moscowmetr, you can actually check it out, it's german: www.rad-forum.de; search the forum for grenze ukraine rumänien). The information traces back to some guy at the romanian cyclists' association. Plus I've read some hiking report: 'Rachiv was not an "international" border crossing point on the Ukrainean side, so I could cross the border there, as a Romanian, but my friend could not.' (http://www.alpinet.org/main/articole/show_ro_id_1353.html). So far for theory, now for practice: your crossing the border unharmed does not contradict my theory, cause in it your border crossing (namely Siret) is said to _be_ an international crossing. It's kinda freaking me out, cause none of the embassy websites lose a single word about this (neither do they (the staff, not the websites ) reply to my mails). Anyway.

Thanks for writing

Severin

6. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member, 267 posts) 10 Aug '04 12:16

Hallo Severin,
Das ist eine interessant Geschichte. Ich bin total überzeugt, daß dieser Wander vom Grenzschutz gespielt wurde. Beide Konsulate bestehtigten , daß mit dem korrekten Visum wurde es keine Problem geben. Es gibt keine unterschiedliche Arten vom Grenzuebergainge. Die sind alle gleich. Es sieht o aus als haetter der Wander Pech. Manchmal versuchen die Beamten einige Tricks um von Dir Geld zuverdienen. Das is nur eine Theorie (Von meinen eigenen Erfahrungen)

Viel Glück
Dani