I totally concede that point and it's a complete cock up on my part. I would never provide advice which was intentionally harmful to someone's travels.
What I have said post that incorrect post, is factually correct. One must pay attention to each indivudual European country and the bilateral or unifrom agreement with that country. By doing so they can enable themselves to stay well within their legal rights far beyond 90 days in Euorpe withought having to obtain a visa.
Calculating your days within the Schengen area is important as you are the one who has to calculate it. Travelling via train allows ease of access to multiple countries without the hassle of immigration. One should always be aware of their rights and obligations....
Again mkiey... point taken... but also point proven....
- date of entry into Germany (bus or train ticket from the Netherlands)
- means supporting yourself
- proof of adress
If you plan on leaving the EU in December, it also helps if you can show a ticket for you flight home, this will be proof that you don't have the intention to stay in the EU.
t-maia is spot-on.
Just another note for other travelers: the Schengen area is expending rapidly and the zone will become bigger and bigger over the next view months. There are already a lot of countries that have ratified the agreement, but it takes a while before they all have implemented it. So if you intend to stay longer than 3 months, then take a good look at which countries has implemented the agreement at the time of your travel.
if youre australian, kiwi, canadian or i think south african, you can get a working holiday visa pretty easily which will allow you to be legally hangin around europe for a year. well, germany for a year, but youre allowed to travel of course... its what ive got and i had about 2 weeks left on my schengen 90 dyas. you just need to show you have a return ticket, enough money/a job and health insurance for the time you wanna stay.
whoever said that the governments know where you are all the time isnt really 100% true. when you travel by train you never (in my experience) get asked fo ryour passport. therefore they have no idea where you are at any given time. within the schengen countries tho, it doesnt matter, once youre in there, you have 90 days to see your shit n get out. however, i went via train from italy to switzerland (which isnt a schengen country) and didnt get checked in OR out by any form of immigration or customs, so i therefore wonder how on earth they would know how long i was there in a NON schengen country not using up my 90 days.
i think its something you can really get away with, but in my opinion, if you ever have plans on coming abck to europe, youd be stupid to try and fuck with them to be honest.
eee, this thread is making me slightly nervous. just to clarify--- if no one stamped my passport when i came in, then they probablly won't notice when I leave, right? also, it was my understanding that the entire shengen zone is one visa zone, so you have to actually leave the shengen and make a big fuss about getting a stamp in your passport to prove that you left to avoid overstaying. The annoying thing is that when I left home I had a brand new passport which still has no stamps in it at all. it kinda makes me feel like I don't actually exist. anyone else get that feeling?
im not sure how much relevance a stamp in your passport actually has, because when you check into flights n stuff your details go in there and im sure interpol and other international agencies have a database or something. how much theyre gonna care, i don tknow tho... they have bigger fish to fry really.. but ya know, illegal immigrants are becoming a bigger n bigger problem n even tho youre not one, and youre leaving, they may be cracking down, who knows...
i was in the same situation and i did wonder how they were to know when i left the schengen area into switzerland since my passport was never checked or anything, in OR out, i feel like they had no idea, bu ti wasnt about to risk it...
I would like to understand how a residency card from Spain allows me to travel throughout the Schegen countries.
I am an American and would like to live in Spain for 1-2 years. I applied for a schegen visa prior to leaving the States from the Spanish consulate. Eight months later, I am still waiting on approval, but understand now from them they will grant me a 90 day visa that has one entry. Then upon approval, within the first month of being in Spain I go to the local police department with my passport, medical certificates, and police record and apply for my residecy card.
What I really care about though is being able to travel throughout the Schegen countries for more than 90 days. If the visa granted to me is only for 90 days, that really only gets me 180 days in Spain and the other schegen countries....90 days tourist visa, 90 days residence visa....what am I missing here? I can't understand how the residency card for Spain allows me to travel throughout the schegen countries? Is something else added to my passport?
Can anyone explain this to me?