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1. Posted by hael0 (Full Member 31 posts) 12y

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So we're all travellers right? I mean 1 year+ abroad, us serious buggers. Most of us are probably faced with the same dilemma of finding a job when we get back from our adventures just so we can save money for yet another adventure. First off, what jobs can we get that won't destroy our souls? Second, how can we end this cycle? How can we support permanent movement? Isn't the object of our travel to step outside the Orwellian boot-stomping capitalist system? Only to come sniveling back after the accounts run empty? Back to the 9 to 5? Does anyone else want to remove themselves permanently from the grind? How can we do this? Lets put our heads together on this one.


I'm sure we've all felt this frustration before.

2. Posted by stevieh (Respected Member 612 posts) 12y

Hi Mike,
This is a good thread!
Every time I read an article in a magazine about 'career breaks', it says without fail how the person got an 'even better job' when they returned. Er, why?
I travelled for 9 months with partner + 2 kids and cannot now imagine how people just walk back into their own lives as if nothing had happened. My feet itch every day, and going back to the 9-5 would destroy me.
I was an electrical engineer, my partner an accountant, living in an ordinary town on good money, in a nice house with nice cars etc.
When we came back, we knew we had to make a change if we were to survive. So we moved to the Lake District, a place we'd always loved.
It was either that or New Zealand ! It made us feel like we were still travelling, at least for a while.
My partner is still an accountant - but part-time at a local trout farm in an office on the edge of a lake!
I worked part-time in a gallery for six months until it closed, then did some odd-jobs to keep myself ticking over. Now, I'm building a fledgling tour company, based up here, but covering the UK.
We are not rich and probably never will be but, as an old man sat next to me on a park bench looking at the landscape one day said, "That view is part of your wages.":)

3. Posted by stevieh (Respected Member 612 posts) 12y

Hello again!
Thought I needed a new message for this bit!
Our year away cost £28,000.
Sounds a lot, but that was for 4 people, living in reasonably nice accommodation and includes our flight tickets and insurance etc.
That figure is roughly equal to one good annual salary in the UK, so it occurred to us, that if we could have earned this much whilst we were travelling, we could have carried on indefinitely!
Of course, with 2 kids, you'd sometimes need more, but if only one or two of you were travelling, you could get by on a lot less too.
The question is, how best to generate the money whilst you go?
My ideal would be to write and sell articles and/or photos as I went, although that may not pay the bills by itself.
Then there's the usual assortment of 'travellers' jobs' - bar work, fruit picking etc, but for those of us past our student days, that's a bit less practical.
What do you think?

4. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

haha! luv it. Ive had it with 9-5 cubicle hell. off to Scotland to study and travel for a year! wherever from there i guess. a buddy is quiting his bankin job in Canada to do the same.

i saved up heaps of cash and plan on working freelance web design from my flat. my job has that luxury. so i can get outta the USA....
SO long SUCKAS!!!

5. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 12y

I keep thinking of taking up poker. Seriously, if you could finish on the final table in one of the big tournaments, you'd win $40,000 US. That's enough for a decent round the world trip.

Myself, I am still stuck in the 9 to 5. However, to ease the pain I have a job that allows me to travel. Alright, it's not to exciting places, and instead I am spending this week in Omaha. However, it's still travel, and this way I can travel all of North America on my company's dime, and when I take a vacation, I can go farther afield.

Oh, and as someone who took some time off, I can tell you that I was surprisingly reengergized when I got back to work. I was DREADING it right up until the day I was back, but then I found the little things about work that bothered me didn't bother me so much any more. Even filling out time reports was fun. (Of course, that only lasted about 7 months and then I wanted to quit again, but such is life)...


6. Posted by tigerlilly (Full Member 16 posts) 12y

My family keep asking me what I'm going to do in a years time when I finish uni, when I tell them I want to travel for a year or two they ask what about after that. But I don't know!! I can't bare the thought of working at a boring 9-5 job, it would kill me. It's such a scary thought. But at the same time I kind of feel like this is the sort of job I'll end up doing if I try to make some use of my degree.I'll feel I've let my parents down and wasted all their money if I don't. But I just want to have a job I enjoy and allows me to have fun and travel!

Tiger xx

PS stevieh- taking your two kids travelling with you and your partner must have been amazing! How old were your kids when you went and where did you travel to? And what about school (unless they were past school age or pre school?)?

7. Posted by travelover (Respected Member 494 posts) 12y

It sucks that we can't have an endless well of money to support our need to travel. And that need definitely does vary for all of us. I personally would love to travel for long periods of time, but having a daily life to get back to does seem ok to me... for a while at least . I think some people have passions other than travelling, passions that they make into their lifelong jobs/careers.. and yet other people make travelling their way of life. Now I will return from digressing...

Sometimes... and this is just my opinion that I somehow feel that will prompt an outburst... sometimes it's good to be an avid traveller while maintaining your job/career. I believe in the good/bad duality of life, and that we can't fully appreciate the good without the bad. The bad (i.e. jobs) gives us the possibility of doing the good... Of course, to be fully satisfied, we would need a really nice and tolerant boss to allow us to take so much time off... but the main point is, we know that we need money to travel, so I think the sacrifice is worth it. I myself don't much like the idea of 9 to 5 constantly (I really like flex hours let me tell you), but if it'll allow me to save up and go on a kick ass trip for about a month... I'll do it.

8. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

right on - agree with the job idea.
for the past 8 years my 9-5 has funded a month trip each year - besides paying rent + car! - allowing me to eat well, drink and travel without worrying about money. a good job can help fund each years travel. Ide come back after a month and start savin for next years trip.

9. Posted by Maggy (Budding Member 2 posts) 12y

The problem is once you start you can not stop. One thing that seems to be the best remedie for a lot of travellers is to travel with your work or to move from country to country whilst working. For the past 6 years I have done the latter and can also tell that this is not the easiest as this means speaking new languages and getting to now the culture in a business way.

Nevertheless, after being for 8 months in South America and coming back to Europe, I know I need money to travel but am not satisfied with the way you need to do it. I guess that working in tourism helps me along the way of feeling good, helping other people with their holidays and giving them tips on what to do and where to go.

Now after a year in Spain I am having the feeling to "move" again, but it is hard as I am not sure whether I would find what I am looking for.... but I guess that is what we do best... to travel ... to search... to discover... to wonder and to start the process again from step one...

10. Posted by hael0 (Full Member 31 posts) 12y

Wow, didn't expect such a positive response!
But I think my frustration is rooted more deeply in the idea of working itself. Maybe its more of the realization that what we're really paying for with our minutes is the right to live. Somewhere along the line of our history, some jerk decided to charge us for the right to have a roof over our heads. Or for the right to a cool drink of water. I had this arguement with my mother years ago about how water, at least, should be free. She still doesn't see my point of view. I can understand paying for the things we want or desire, but what about the very things we need to survive as a living, breathing animal on this planet? Food, shelter, water. To quote a great man holding up a bottle of water, "This is how I know we will never have a revolution. Because if a person will pay for water, they will suffer any indignity." It blows my mind really, so much so that I forgot my point and must end here. More to come with your comments.


P.s. That was Derrick Jensen