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1. Posted by katie-lou (Budding Member 26 posts) 9y

I recently had my plans to spend xmas and new years in sydney ruined, basically realising that myself and the friend im sharing a room (and bed) with are not compatible (mainly because she keeps bringing guys home when we share a bed!!!! not amusing!). So we've decided to go our separate ways. However this leaves me a bit stuck so close to xmas. As we have been travelling together and living together (we met in Darwin) i havent really had the opportunity to meet many other travellers, so this leaves me a bit stuck about xmas. I cant decide whether to leave the apartment we're living in and go and stay in a hostel, which, in sydney over the festive period will be ridiculously expensive, but will give me the chance to meet new people, or to quickly book a flight to somewhere like Melbourne and see how i go there. I really didnt plan to spend xmas alone, but i can no longer share a room with this friend. Ive even toyed with the idea of cutting my trip short (by 6 months) and flying home to spend xmas with family and friends.

Anyone got any ideas on what i can do???


2. Posted by Steve_ell (Budding Member 39 posts) 9y

At the risk of sounding patronising -
please don't let one bad experience wreck, or worse, curtail one of the great times of your life. Pick yourself up, bite the bullet and move somewhere to meet like-minded travellers (hang the expense) and restart your fantastic adventure.
Pitfalls while travelling are common but often lead to great memories soon after. Travellers have the world at their feet - don't lose sight of the potential.

3. Posted by Erik85 (Respected Member 274 posts) 9y

This is a good question. Bad luck with your friend.

The vast majority of shops etc. would be shut, and most of us aussies just do the typical spend the day with family thing. Other travellers could be up for something if you meet some around. If Sydney is like Melbourne there may be a lot of pubs/clubs that have an event for Xmas Eve, so you could party hard xmas eve and sleep most of xmas day haha!

Maybe theres an xmas parade or something going on? Check local guides. Another option could be to do some volunteer work as many charities run events for the homeless and so forth, but this would be hard to organise in the little time left.

Melbourne will be similar to Sydney in most aspects including price, although if you want to get away and do things independently from your friend it may be a good idea, but prices for travel at short notice may be expensive!

I don't think i've helped very much but maybe you'll get some ideas from my brainstorming!

Oh and I also think xmas is overrated so even if it's not that fun I wouldn't be too disappointed! I wouldn't stress too much just do what you can and see how things turn out.


4. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Your name is Kate and you share a bed with a girl, yet this girl keeps bringing guys home to share the bed with you.

Perhaps Jerry Springer has a spare room?

5. Posted by katie-lou (Budding Member 26 posts) 9y

Quoting james

Your name is Kate and you share a bed with a girl, yet this girl keeps bringing guys home to share the bed with you.

Perhaps Jerry Springer has a spare room?

James, sorry to disappoint you but its not like that! My friend keeps going out and getting drunk, and then, much to my horror, bringing random guys back which would be bad enough if we just shared a room but we also share a bed.
Anyway thanks to those who gave advice, i was so tempted to just get a flight back home in time for xmas but im sure i would regret it a couple of weeks afterwards. Ive spoken to my friend and we are going to spend xmas and new year together, then im moving out after that. Quite daunting the thought of starting from scratch agin but i guess ive done it before. Only thing i need to decide is whether to move to a hostel in sydney or start a fresh in Melbourne. Anyone who's been to both who can give me pro's and cons??

6. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 9y

I haven't lived in an apartment in Sydney, but from what is common knowledge throughout Australia outside of New South Wales, the con of living in Sydney is the rediculous over the top expenses and the far more touristy places where it is almost impossible to get more than a few metres of space to yourself. I'd say if you are on a working "holiday" visa you should try and make more of a holiday out of it rather than making it a working "temporarily move away from home" visa. Living in Sydney is not a holiday it is "living in Sydney experience" and hell tiring at that! It's like those Australian's who go to the UK on a working holiday visa and spend all their time in London instead of travelling the UK and some other countries in Europe. That would be so tiring and boring after a week or so living in London!

Staying in Sydney for more than a few days gets a bit tiring especially commuting during peak hours. Try going to places like Tasmania (mainly Launceston or Hobart) for a while, Melbourne/Victoria for a while, South Australia/Adelaide for a while and moving on. You are certain to make your time in Australia far more enjoyable doing this, than getting bogged down in Sydney your whole time in Australia when it is such a big and diverse country. Doing the working holiday visa is meant to allow you the opportunity to travel the country and have a wicked time not have you wanting to leave 6 months early because of one little thing that you can fix by moving on.

Tasmania is far nicer than anywhere else on the East Coast of Australia and the type of person you sound as if you are it would be perfect for you if you could get a job here. Sydney is an on the go 24/7 place where you are likely to get things happen like you have experienced and don't like, places like Tasmania are far more relaxed and quieter where you can get space to yourself and are not likely to experience the sort of thing you have (better still you could almost rent a full 2 story house walking distance from the city, for less than a one bedroom apartment 2 hours commuting time in peak hour to Sydney).

Most people who do what you have done ie getting bogged down in Sydney return back home later regretting not have maximised the whole concept of the "holiday" part of the visa. I spoke to many people on my Round the World trip who had got stuck in Sydney and were regretting it now that they have left Australia.

[ Edit: Edited on Dec 22, 2007, at 4:22 PM by aharrold45 ]

7. Posted by Erik85 (Respected Member 274 posts) 9y

Quoting aharrold45

Tasmania is far nicer than anywhere else on the East Coast of Australia

I think this is the first time I've ever heard such a statement! :O
But not to derail the thread, I agree very much about getting trapped in the one area. It's very easy to fall in this trap if one is in an area they like, but remember the grass could be greener on the other side of the fence!

[ Edit: Edited on Dec 23, 2007, at 12:46 AM by Erik85 ]

8. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

I think most major cities such as New York, London and Sydney, etc. offer the excitement and employment opportunities that many tourists/travellers are looking for. Anything less and people get bored after a few days.

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