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21. Posted by Sam2000 (Inactive 121 posts) 8y

I have a couple of gay friends and a handful of lesbian friends...I don't understand it. I really don't. The whole prospect of a man doesn't really do anything for me...I find it really quite strange...

...However, my gay friends find it...normal...and I guess thats all that matters...

I don't think its natural though, well, its not, biologically its not natural. There have been a number of psychological studies into it, and I read somewhere once that bad childhood experienced, a young boy with his father, for example, can drive someone to homosexuality.

Some biologists think there is a gene which can stimulate homosexuality, but that it only occurs in a minute percentage of homosexual couples.

22. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting james

I didn't, she just walked in. But now you mention it, it's an idea that would have gone down well

It would have gone deep down in the well, but for the other u would have been struggling to drill down

23. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting arif_kool

Quoting james

I didn't, she just walked in. But now you mention it, it's an idea that would have gone down well

It would have gone deep down in the well, but for the other u would have been struggling to drill down

Arif, that last comment was a bit below the belt

24. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Quoting arif_kool

Quoting james

I didn't, she just walked in. But now you mention it, it's an idea that would have gone down well

It would have gone deep down in the well, but for the other u would have been struggling to drill down

Arif, that last comment was a bit below the belt

Sorry James, no offence intended, it was in lighter vein.

I never doubted ur drilling abilities

25. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting Sam2000

I have a couple of gay friends and a handful of lesbian friends...I don't understand it. I really don't. The whole prospect of a man doesn't really do anything for me...I find it really quite strange...

...However, my gay friends find it...normal...and I guess thats all that matters...

I don't think its natural though, well, its not, biologically its not natural. There have been a number of psychological studies into it, and I read somewhere once that bad childhood experienced, a young boy with his father, for example, can drive someone to homosexuality.

Well Sam, i disagree with on this point, i feel that there is natural inclination to it from an early stage and things like bad childhood experiences can certainly be one of the factors but it is something beyond that, maybe hormonal changes which are driving people of same sexes together

26. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

There are still some things which cannot be fully explained by medical science at this moment. Say, for example, the righties and the lefties. Majority of the people in the world are right handed. A study in the late 1990's showed that there are almost 1 in every 10 of adults are lefties. Until quite recently, left-handed people considered abnormal, wrong, and a shame to the society. Left-handedness was still wrong, even as recent as in the 60's and 70's. I've even read about how left handed people were condemned or ill-treated by the society from way, way back until very recently. But now, it's accepted as a norm, as part of how people are "wired."

I am partly left-handed, and partly right-handed, depending on what task I do. I'm not ambidexterous though - I use my left hand when I write, and use my right hand when I eat. I remember being scolded by my mother when I was small, but old enough to eat by myself, just because I was using my left hand to eat. I don't blame her for all that scolding and attempts to get me to the do it the "right" way, the way "normal" people do. It is the society to be blamed though. She had since given up on it, and accepted me the way I was.

A cousin of mine is mostly left-handed. Yes, I said mostly because there is no way that one is TOTALLY right- or left- handed unless the other side of the hand is missing from whatever reasons. I remember reading something about heterosexuals. There is nobody that is 100% heterosexual or homosexual. Anyway, that's another topic.

I think it's just the way people are wired that they are homosexuals. Take me and my cousin for example, while you may be able to train our right hands to write, we would still be more comfortable writing with our left hand if you asked us to choose. We feel more "natural" writing with our left hand. It's just that simple.

So let's put this in the heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual sense. I believe it is the same case as in right-handed/left-handed/ambidexterous. Studies also showed that there are almost 1 in every 10 people are homosexuals. If you guys think that homosexuality is wrong, I think you're probably just the same as those people who were against left-handed people back in those days. Why did you not think that being left-handed is wrong now? That's mostly because the society has accepted it. And I believe in the future, more and more people will have the same thought about homosexuality like how people regard the lefties now. It's just the way they are. Did I choose to be left-handed? No. I'm sure the answer is the same for my cousin and all other left-handed people.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 2, 2008, at 8:01 AM by Hien ]

27. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Yeah, what is it about people who wake up at 40 years of age and say "Hello world, I'm actually gay!"

I doubt they weren't all living a lie for all of that time.

There can be a lot things going on in someones life, to makes him conform to the behaviour that is expected from him/her. If you look back 20-25 years, then you will find that homosexuality was not as accepted as it is today. And in a lot of countries it still is not as accepted as it should be!! If you would also come from a family that puts a lot of pressure on their kids, to become like them, (and this almost always happens in one form or another.) especialy when it comes to religious families. It can make people deny who they are, and were other will look for the confromtation, there are also people, who conform to the norm of a family, society, religion. But a lot of them will have an experience that makes them question who they really are. To the world it might looks odd, but usually it is a process that takes a long time.

Homosexuality in nature is not something that is not normal, nor is it something restricted to humans. Some biologist will speculate that it is a response from nature, to deal with overpopulation.

28. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

I'm overwhelmingly left handed in what I do.

My grand father in Ireland was also left handed. He was forced to write with his right hand as a child. He had his left hand taped up by the teachers.

29. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting Hien

So let's put this in the heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual sense. I believe it is the same case as in right-handed/left-handed/ambidexterous. Studies also showed that there are almost 1 in every 10 people are homosexuals. If you guys think that homosexuality is wrong, I think you're probably just the same as those people who were against left-handed people back in those days. Why did you not think that being left-handed is wrong now? That's mostly because the society has accepted it. And I believe in the future, more and more people will have the same thought about homosexuality like how people regard the lefties now. It's just the way they are. Did I choose to be left-handed? No. I'm sure the answer is the same for my cousin and all other left-handed people.

Being a left/right handed is driven by natural instinct which is beyond ur control where as homosexuality is also driven by factors other than natural. Some people tend to develop such affinity for people of same sex at a much later stage

30. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting Herr Bert

Homosexuality in nature is not something that is not normal, nor is it something restricted to humans. Some biologist will speculate that it is a response from nature, to deal with overpopulation.

I agree!!! Recently there was a series on Discovery channel which dealt with the homosexuality in animals. Some startling facts were revealed about the homosexual behaviour of animals especially monkeys and dogs:)

Arif