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51. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

Quoting arif_kool

Quoting Isadora

I'm not sure James is going to be willing to share George Michael with you, Arif, as he's pretty protective of his boy-toys. You may have to contact Boy George instead. I hear he's out of rehab and has finished his community service so probably has time on his hands...

Great news Isa

Was he a victim of drug overdose??

Heroin and cocaine abuse, allegedly kidnapping and holding a Norwegian man hostage in his house, failure to appear in court, and the list goes on... Wow, the things you could learn from him!!!! See, George Michael only imbibes in prescription meds and cannibus. And that "lewd acts" conviction is nothing compared to kidnapping a poor Norwegian guy. Maybe you should rethink this gay muscian thing and go for fashion designers - they don't get arrested as often so more free time to spend with you.

52. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting arif_kool

I agree, Redhaze did a commendable and brave job in meticulously detailing her experience. the reply to point no 2 was a brilliant one.

Arif

I'm not quite sure. I think her reference to the lesbian experience - "I kinda tried it because I wanted to make sure what I am" - needs further details.

53. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting Isadora

Maybe you should rethink this gay muscian thing and go for fashion designers - they don't get arrested as often so more free time to spend with you.

Fashion designers and make-up artists are most often gays, why is it so??

Is it because of the nature of their work or is it that such profession can be taken up only by gays

54. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Quoting arif_kool

I agree, Redhaze did a commendable and brave job in meticulously detailing her experience. the reply to point no 2 was a brilliant one.

Arif

I'm not quite sure. I think her reference to the lesbian experience - "I kinda tried it because I wanted to make sure what I am" - needs further details.

james, i didnt probe her further as she had requested all to be nice to her

55. Posted by sapphyre (Respected Member 418 posts) 8y

I'm a late to this post, but just to revive it a little...

We used to get lessons in school (might be sex or moral education, can't remember) where they told us homosexuals/people who feel inclined towards people of the same sex do not fall into the category of gays and lesbians unless they practise the lifestyle e.g. A girl who likes a girl is not labelled a lesbian unless she dates only girls and sleep with them. I do not know if this 'definition' is applicable anywhere else.

My sis dates girls, though I do not know if she sleeps with them or likes guys as well. She hangs the rainbow-colored gay union flag in her room (bet my parents dunno what it is) and is always having this boyish girl over for overnights, or she stays at her place. She also gets girls coming over to send her flowers etc. She says she's scared of guys and doesn't feel comfortable with them, which won't be surprising if you know what the guys we have to share our house with (ie my father and my brother) are like. My younger sis and I are both straight, but even I feel a sense of repulsion whenever they are in close distance e.g. when my father comes into my room to get his stuff.

I personally don't give a damn whether someone is straight or not and whatever the reason is. Really, whatever makes you happy. But it does make me uncomfortable when a girl makes a move on me, which has happened before.

56. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

Our brains are wired in all kinds of weird ways, and our genes are all - unless we're identical twins - unique from one another. I'm reading a book about music and the brain which talks about, amongst other things, people who see music as colours, or associate musical notes with smells. It's rare and it seems odd to those of us who don't, but it's perfectly normal for them and it's their own, unique reality. It's also science.

I believe the same goes for being gay or lesbian. A unique combination of genes and internal wiring makes it so that certain people feel an attraction to the same sex - the same kind of attraction that a straight person feels to the opposite sex. It's genetic, and it's scientific. It's also their reality - it's normal for them. Why question it more? It doesn't effect me in any way that someone writes with their left hand, even though I can't fathom doing it myself. I also can't imagine what it's like to see colours pouring out when I listen to music, but I accept that people do so because, biologically, we are all different and some rare and special people get wired differently enough to see the world in a unique, new way.

Science is lovely, no?

57. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

Quoting tway

Science is lovely, no?

Science is exceptionally lovely, yes!

I agree with you also about the uniqueness of each individual. Even the simplest of life forms is a complex organism. Way too many factors are involved with the design of each person to be able to narrow one's proclivity for this or that down to a single influence.

Maybe it's because of the way my brain is "wired" but I have never questioned the whys of someone's sexual preferences as it's never mattered to me. I find homosexuality and bisexuality to be as natural as heterosexuality. Honestly, I'm more apt to question why someone wouldn't expect these variations in sexual preferences given the variations in every other aspect of human make-up/behavior. Yup, science is lovely and intriguing and wonderful stuff.

As a side note from Sapphyre's comment about feeling "uncomfortable when approached"... It's a common response but when it's happened to me, instead of discomfort, I tend to view it as a form of flattery. Male or female - someone found me interesting enough to approach.

58. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting sapphyre

We used to get lessons in school (might be sex or moral education, can't remember) where they told us homosexuals/people who feel inclined towards people of the same sex do not fall into the category of gays and lesbians unless they practise the lifestyle e.g. A girl who likes a girl is not labelled a lesbian unless she dates only girls and sleep with them. I do not know if this 'definition' is applicable anywhere else.

I have a really strong urge to become a doctor. This doesn't make me a doctor.

59. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Quoting sapphyre

We used to get lessons in school (might be sex or moral education, can't remember) where they told us homosexuals/people who feel inclined towards people of the same sex do not fall into the category of gays and lesbians unless they practise the lifestyle e.g. A girl who likes a girl is not labelled a lesbian unless she dates only girls and sleep with them. I do not know if this 'definition' is applicable anywhere else.

I have a really strong urge to become a doctor. This doesn't make me a doctor.

Well it's not as black and white. If you ask a gay or a lesbian, when they knew they like people of their own sex, they very often say: when I was 7,8 or 9. Without a doubt, these people know that they are different, at a time before they become sexualy active. So this definition how logical it looks, has isn't flawless.

That also is one of the difficulties of being a bisexual. If you are in a relationship with somebody, that will not turn you into a heterosexual (if you have relationship with somebody of the different sex), or a gay (if you have a relationship, with somebody of the same sex). But the outside world will in most cases judge you, as someone 'who finally made his mind up'. But inside you will still be drawn towards both sexes.

60. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting Herr Bert

That also is one of the difficulties of being a bisexual. If you are in a relationship with somebody, that will not turn you into a heterosexual (if you have relationship with somebody of the different sex), or a gay (if you have a relationship, with somebody of the same sex). But the outside world will in most cases judge you, as someone 'who finally made his mind up'. But inside you will still be drawn towards both sexes.

The difficulty that you have explained is one that is common to all people. For example, I see at least 10 or 20 girls everyday that I'd love to have sex with. However as I am happily married and therefore are someone "who finally made his mind up", I don't do it.