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1. Posted by Cool Paul (Travel Guru 611 posts) 8y

I read another post that got me interested in this

What is the tipping situation down there? If I decide not to tip should I never show my face in that establishment ever again. or is it expected to not tip?

in the US it is 10-20% of the bill. Which is completely ridiculous.

2. Posted by maba (Inactive 227 posts) 8y

Tipping is not generally expected. The standard cafe or restaurant will not expect tipping but, they may have a 'tipping jar' on the counter so you can drop some change in this. The takings would generally be divided between all the staff.

If you do want to tip an individual, it is up to you (and I have done it) but it's certainly not generally expected.

I am with you, I don't like mandatory tipping, it puts unnecessary pressure on a night out.

Having said all that, I do note that tourists tend to tip so I'm afraid that we heading down the path of tipping becoming expected.

;)

3. Posted by Erik85 (Respected Member 274 posts) 8y

I think the general idea here is that people only tip if they think the service is exceptionally good.

Erik

4. Posted by hels82 (Full Member 96 posts) 8y

Yeah i would generally round the bill up to the nearest $5 (Aus dollars) (when there is 2 of us-more if there is a group of people) Thats if I pay cash but if iv paid on card it can be more difficult to tip. It still feels strange not tipping and iv been here for nearly a year! The same applies in other areas as well as restaurants-for example i have always tipped hairdressers-but thats not expected here either.

5. Posted by NantesFC (Respected Member 531 posts) 8y

Quoting Cool Paul

in the US it is 10-20% of the bill. Which is completely ridiculous.

Not exactly. Sure, many places assume a tip will be given but they can't force you to do so. Americans in general, grow up with the notion that tip giving is a way of being polite, therefore they tip (Usually small) Some people use the "10%" rule, not sure why, but they do. I usually don't tip myself unless I find the service of exceptional quality. It all depends. In some other countries, they don't expect to tip at all. They don't want you to tip. Instead, they'll just add a "service" charge to your bill. At least it's not like that.

6. Posted by makka (Respected Member 248 posts) 8y

ive allways looked at the system they have in the states is like an indirect way for the companies (in the hospitality buisness) being able to pay thier staff less with the attitude that thier wage increses by the 'manditory' tipping which is expected in the states .... everywhere i go, i tip if i feel the member of staff has gone out of thier natural duties (which is what their payed for) to help us ... either that or they are well mannered, relaxed and made it a pleasant experience...

an example recently ... me and my dad went out for a meal, service was good, tho the girl did try alittle to hard with the politeness (you could tell it wasnt natural) ... anyhoo come the end of the meal and it was time for us to pay, the reciept was handed down by her - with the 'service not included' underlined TWICE in big bold pen .... that to me is an insult!!! ... as a result her tip was reduced haha!! .... granted here in the UK tipping isnt 'mandatory' but none the less underlining of information which we would have noticed anyway is just plain wrong!!

7. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Interesting thing how is when paying for a restaurant bill by credit card, the docket has three lines:

1. Cost
2. Gratuity
3. Total Cost.

I guess this is required so that the amount of the "tip" is clear without any calculations needing to be performed. I've also noticed that that the "Cost" and the "Gratuity" go through my credit card separately.

If I was an employee my only concern is whether the "tip" is added to my salary, and hence I'd pay tax on it. When it's paid in cash, you simply pocket it and it doesn't form part of your taxable income.

8. Posted by hey_monkee (Respected Member 430 posts) 8y

Nah, we pretty much just don't tip - and find it hard to get used to when we come over to the States lol :)

9. Posted by leong1 (Full Member 89 posts) 8y

I found that when i went to the states that the do in general expect tips. I once ordered a pizza to a hotel room. I took the pizza and paid for it then closed the door. 1 min later the guy knocked back on the door and asked where his tip was ?

I was also told that if you dont tip in bars they have a tendancy to leave you to last if there is a queue.

To be honest most of the time i got away without tipping and only really tipped if i thought that it was earned.

10. Posted by sunset1999 (Full Member 108 posts) 8y

You don't need to tip in NZ and you don't need to tip in Oz either.

Some restaurants may charge a surcharge on certain days so if you think you've been charged extra, then that could be why.

In the US I just let my workmates work out the tips!