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21. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

You would be surprised that I try to read not only these responses but also I am at page 5 of the my search finding in google.
So far I managed to read all 320 links since last night till now. There is too many links and I try to reach to the end of google search by the mid next week or at most before to go my church, if my eyes allow me to do so!

Quoting Hien

Quoting beerman

Kombizz.......what part are you missing here?

And you still haven't answered my original question.

I think he's not interested in replying your question. And looking at all his past responses in other threads that he had replied to, I believe he probably has not read any of the replies in this thread at all.

22. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 8y

Quoting kombizz

You would be surprised that I try to read not only these responses but also I am at page 5 of the my search finding in google.
So far I managed to read all 320 links since last night till now. There is too many links and I try to reach to the end of google search by the mid next week or at most before to go my church, if my eyes allow me to do so!

Quoting Hien

Quoting beerman

Kombizz.......what part are you missing here?

And you still haven't answered my original question.

I think he's not interested in replying your question. And looking at all his past responses in other threads that he had replied to, I believe he probably has not read any of the replies in this thread at all.

Well, good for you. Now here is a new thing for you: experience is more important than information. So just go to Israel please

23. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

Do I really need to go to a place where .....

Shlomo Shmelzman wrote:
“In my childhood I have suffered fear, hunger and humiliation when I passed from the Warsaw Ghetto, through labour camps, to Buchenwald. I hear too many familiar sounds today, sounds which are being amplified by the war. I hear about ‘closed areas’ and I remember ghettos and camps. I hear ‘two-legged beasts’ and I remember ‘Untermenschen’ [subhumans]. I hear about tightening the siege, clearing the area, pounding the city into submission, and I remember suffering, destruction, death, blood and murder … Too many things in Israel remind me of too many things from my childhood”.
(Ha’aretz, August 11, 1982).

Ref: "Too many things in Israel remind me of too many things from my childhood" (in Nazi Germany)

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting kombizz

You would be surprised that I try to read not only these responses but also I am at page 5 of the my search finding in google.
So far I managed to read all 320 links since last night till now. There is too many links and I try to reach to the end of google search by the mid next week or at most before to go my church, if my eyes allow me to do so!

Quoting Hien

Quoting beerman

Kombizz.......what part are you missing here?

And you still haven't answered my original question.

I think he's not interested in replying your question. And looking at all his past responses in other threads that he had replied to, I believe he probably has not read any of the replies in this thread at all.

Well, good for you. Now here is a new thing for you: experience is more important than information. So just go to Israel please

24. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 8y

Quoting tway

War in the name of religion. Isn't it lovely?

Arent most/all of them?:(
Isnt is about time religion was assigned to the history books?
We should surely by now be sophisticated enough not to need religious symbols to help us understand spirituality. And there is the dangerous reality that religion is being used to justify all kinds of badness in the world. And there is the mistake many religious folk make between doing good by following religious rituals and being a truely good person. Maybe if religion is ripped away from them there would be some chance that they might start thinking for themselves. Shouldnt something as brainwashing and manipulative as religion be made illegal? Fat chance, but at least the religious are under some control here in the West.

Anyway Kombizz go to Isreal. There is not a country in the world where atrocities did not happen. Or is there another reason why u wont go? Because Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wouldnt like it?

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 22, 2008, at 11:11 AM by Mel. ]

25. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

Quoting kombizz

Do I really need to go to a place where .....

Shlomo Shmelzman wrote:
“In my childhood I have suffered fear, hunger and humiliation when I passed from the Warsaw Ghetto, through labour camps, to Buchenwald. I hear too many familiar sounds today, sounds which are being amplified by the war. I hear about ‘closed areas’ and I remember ghettos and camps. I hear ‘two-legged beasts’ and I remember ‘Untermenschen’ [subhumans]. I hear about tightening the siege, clearing the area, pounding the city into submission, and I remember suffering, destruction, death, blood and murder … Too many things in Israel remind me of too many things from my childhood”.
(Ha’aretz, August 11, 1982).

Ref: "Too many things in Israel remind me of too many things from my childhood" (in Nazi Germany)

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting kombizz

You would be surprised that I try to read not only these responses but also I am at page 5 of the my search finding in google.
So far I managed to read all 320 links since last night till now. There is too many links and I try to reach to the end of google search by the mid next week or at most before to go my church, if my eyes allow me to do so!

Quoting Hien

Quoting beerman

Kombizz.......what part are you missing here?

And you still haven't answered my original question.

I think he's not interested in replying your question. And looking at all his past responses in other threads that he had replied to, I believe he probably has not read any of the replies in this thread at all.

Well, good for you. Now here is a new thing for you: experience is more important than information. So just go to Israel please

In answer to your question/comment...

Obviously not as it is much easier to sit back at the computer (in the US) and perform searches on Google. Honestly, by the time you have finished reading all of the links you are currently sifting through, things will have changed in Gaza once again and your information will still be outdated. (Ie: power will be restored, uprising may occur, lightning will strike, the list is endless...)

For someone who appears to be passionate about the situations in the Middle East, you choose not to speak with your own voice but through the words of others, and then only in bits and pieces that suit you. If you are trying to illicit discussion then you have chosen a format that is proving unsuccessful. All of us are capable of searching Google for news from around the world. We honestly don't need to sort through a litany of links.

Voice your own opinions and discussion will ensue. Continue the link daisychain approach and true discussion of the topics will be non-existent - as it is now. You have not responded to anyone who has posted here with anything other than someone else's words. In all honesty, it's tedious and unproductive.

26. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting tway

War in the name of religion. Isn't it lovely?

Arent most/all of them?:(
Isnt is about time religion was assigned to the history books?

I just wish more people would focus on the good stuff in their religion - regardless of which one they follow - rather than fighting over the differences. I had a discussion with a friend yesterday about how the biggest religious conflicts are between groups whose religions are similar and/or have a similar background (i.e. Catholic vs Protestant/Christian vs Muslim / Muslim vs Judaism, etc)), rather than those that are completely different (you don't see many Christians getting all up in arms over Buddhism, for example).

27. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting Mel.

We should surely by now be sophisticated enough not to need religious symbols to help us understand spirituality.

What the hell is spirituality?

28. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 8y

Quoting james

What the hell is spirituality?

Uh, I dont know. I heard somebody using that word and thought it would make my post look fancy because it is quite a big word;)

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 22, 2008, at 12:25 PM by Mel. ]

29. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Quoting Mel.

We should surely by now be sophisticated enough not to need religious symbols to help us understand spirituality.

What the hell is spirituality?

Does this help ?

Shrine to the Spirits

30. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting james

What the hell is spirituality?

Uh, I dont know. I heard somebody using that word and thought it would make my post look fancy because it is quite a big word;)

No, I don't know. The only people I know who talk about "spirituality" are into rocks (sorry, I mean crystals), lighting candles (oh, how mystic), and talking about how dogs can predict earthquakes (but strangely enough, not Lottery numbers). Ask them what "spirituality" means and they never seem to provide an answer that makes sense; eg. "getting in touch with your spiritual side" doesn't exactly mean much to me.

I can't quite describe why, but it sounds like a load of rubbish to me.