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1. Posted by Jabels (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

Im heading of to Oz in August and i have a stop over in hong kong and was thinking about trying to buy a camera at the airport there before i catch the connection to Oz. Im looking for a decent SLR 12 Mpix with a good zoom lens for wildlife photography and a good wide angled lens for landscape. Can anyone recommend any cameras and what i might expect to pay in hong kong

2. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

How much money do you want to spend ?

3. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

Why 12 MP? You won't notice any quality difference between that and 10 or even 8 MP, yet it vastly limits your possible choices.
(The only 'reason' I could think of to explicitly want 12 MP is because you intend to do shoot stock for an agency which has set such an arbitrary limit to keep out the prosumers - but then, most I know limit by camera model, not by resolution.)

Plus what Q' asked.

(I guess as a Nikon fan my gut reaction at this point would be to recommend the D300 with the 12-24 f/4G DX, plus one of their big zooms (don't shoot wildlife myself, so don't really know much about the zooms). But that's pretty much a pro camera. A D80 might be much more suitable...)

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM by Sander ]

4. Posted by Jabels (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

im on a tight budget 500 GBP tops maybe a 100 quid on top for a good lens but thats pushing it. Reason i want a 12 rather than 10 is because i like to print the photos quite large as in can fit a good picture frame also i do alot of editing with film and stills and fine the higher the MP the easier it is to play around with without damaging the resolution.

5. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

Oh, well, that's easy then.
The only DSLR cameras currently on the market below $1000 (500 GBP) have a maximum of 10 MP. (That's the Nikon D40X and D80, Canon 400D, Pentax K10D, Samsung GX-10, Olympus E-410 and E- 510 and Sony A100.)
Wide angle lenses simply don't exist for $200, probably not even used unless you're really lucky. Guess you'll have to make do with the 18mm on the default kit lens.
200mm+ zooms exist for $200 - but I don't think I'd call them suitable for shooting wildlife in any way.

Of course, things'll have changed a bit by August. You might have a decent chance of seeing Canon's 450D in stores, which'll have the asked for 12 MP.
But I really doubt 300 pixels (7%) of extra length on the long side is going to make any kind of difference; even printing poster-format, you could color me very impressed if you could tell. What you could tell would be the lack of quality in the lens.

My recommendation is to instead get a Canon 400D cheap (250 GBP) and spend the rest of your budget (350 GBP) on a quality lens. When two years from now you pick up a 500D cheap (14 MP, undoubtedly), that lens at least will still be useful.

As the saying goes: good, fast (meaning available now) or cheap. Pick two.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 28, 2008, at 2:54 PM by Sander ]

6. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

Would you be willing to go with a fixed zoom lens "prosumer" model ? I think that would be within your price range, and will give you good capability.

Like Sander said, there's not much left after you buy the body.

I only know of the 70-300mm G model Nikon lens that might be useful to you. Which is around 80GBP. Even picking a prime at each of the focal lengths you want is a challenge for that price.

Sigma 10-20mm, Tokina 12-24mm is around 350GBP. I've been hearing a lot about the Sigma as being a good cheap wide-angle for landscape work.

The best advice for a tight budget is zero in on what your needs are. It's not true that it's impossible to make decent prints for framing purposes unless you have a largest megapixel count camera out there. The difference between 6 and 12 megapixels is really nothing if you do the math on the resolution.

7. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

Quoting Q'

I only know of the 70-300mm G model Nikon lens that might be useful to you. Which is around 80GBP.

Owning that lens, I can say it's totally unsuitable for wildlife photography (other than the type of wildlife which'll obligingly not move for minutes at a time, like, say, crocodiles or eastern water dragons). :) But despite those two shots, the lens really and honestly does suck. Even to the untrained eye its lack of sharpness is noticeable and it hunts like there's no tomorrow (which is the real killer).

8. Posted by twinsing (Budding Member 38 posts) 8y

Yep, recently bought a Canon 400D.It is most definitely a beginners DSLR. Would highly recommend it, but maybe not for wildlife. As long as you can invest in a quality lens (I only bought the basic) it should be good for starters.

The parallel in Nikon is D40X but Canon lenses are more widely available.

Singapore has some pretty good offers with tripod/free memory cards/bag etc and 0% interest installment plans that can help you buy more expensive ones if need be. I would recommend checking those out in HK before buying unless you are willing put down that much cash.

9. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

Quoting twinsing

... 0% interest installment plans that can help you buy more expensive ones if need be.

All these 0% interest installment plans are only available for purchases on credit cards issued by local banks of that country.

10. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

Quoting Sander

Quoting Q'

I only know of the 70-300mm G model Nikon lens that might be useful to you. Which is around 80GBP.

Even to the untrained eye its lack of sharpness is noticeable and it hunts like there's no tomorrow (which is the real killer).

Hmm....seems not that much more different than the more expensive ED model. I haven't compared the ED to G in terms sharpness, but the ED definitely hunts around.