I noticed yesterday that someone made a comment about how there was not a Tibet link. I am planning on creating a Tibet page in the next couple of days I would like your input. I know the issues around the political status of Tibet is extremely sensitive for many people. I was thinking that when referring to the Tibetan Autonomous Region we should write "Tibet(TAR)" and when talking about the larger Tibetan area we should write "Ethnic Tibet" which includes areas in Qinghai, Gansu, Sichuan, Yunnan, Bhutan, Burma, Nepal and India. These are the terms that are used in the academic world and help a lot with clarification around which areas in Tibet (TAR) and Ethnic Tibet some one is talking or writing about. If you have any suggestions please give them.
Sounds like a good idea to me! I like how Wikipedia breaks it down. Their main Tibet page is about historical/cultural Tibet and they clearly explain the TAR with a link off to a specific page dealing with that. Probably also a good idea to have a disambiguation page like they do.
I've posted a link to this thread in the other thread you were referring to. It would definitely be great to have some more information on Tibet!
Wonderful! May I recommend several resources?
The website of the Tibetan Government in Exile:
A non-profit site about Tibet:
Some international activism sites:
I like what you suggested in your forum post here about having separate articles for the Tibetan Autonomous Region and Ethnic Tibet, which I see you've already created. This makes sense to me, but I've had a closer look at the Ethnic Tibet article, and it seems to be only about those regions of Ethnic Tibet that aren't already included in the TAR. To me, this was really confusing, since I was under the impression that Ethnic Tibet is basically everything - TAR & Tibetan regions outside the TAR. Is that correct? I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole Tibet situation, so please correct me if I'm wrong!
Anyway, if that is the case, then perhaps a more logical way of doing things would be to have one main Tibet article which is effectively about Ethnic Tibet. Kind of like what the current Tibet article is, except with more information about travel in all of Tibet. So incorporating sights & activities, accommodation, red tape, etc. - everything that an article about, say, North Dakota would have.
I'd still have the TAR article, but personally, I don't think you necessarily need an article devoted exclusively to Tibetan regions outside the TAR. Wikipedia don't seem to do this. If you feel that it is worthwhile having one, maybe it would have a title like "Tibet outside the TAR" or something like that.
OK, I hope I'm making sense here! Let me know what you think.
Hello Lavafalls and Lilibellil
I know very little about Tibet appart from it wants to be independent from China and the Chinese government object.
Would somebody explain what the difference between Tibet(TAR) and Ethnic Tibet is. I read the Wikipedia explanation but am finding it difficult to understand.
Would u mind giving me a brief simple explanation of it so what I am reading about it on the internet will make more sense to me.
Well for academic reasons lumping the areas together makes since, as in the case of Wikipedia did. For travel the two areas might as well be two separate countries. Ethnic Tibet is under the political control of the provincial governments making it that you don't need permits and can travel local public transport. While the TAR is pretty much under the control of the central government of China and the Military. This makes traveling in the TAR much more difficult other then just getting permits. In order to go to the west of Tibet foreigners cannot take public buses, have to hire a land rover, have a driver, have a guide and have three different permits.
While if your traveling in Ethnic Tibet you can take the bus to anywhere, accept near military bases, and you don't need any permits to go to all the major areas. Part of the reason why i split the areas is for people that don't have the money or time to make it all the way to the TAR can know there are different trips that are easier and cheaper to do. I have updated the Tibetan areas section and the introduction to Ethnic Tibat and i hope it explains better why the pages are divided.
Another reason why i did this is because when i travel in Ethnic Tibet and use a traditional guide book i find it annoying that i have to flip between four different sections of the book in order to look at Province pages to find out the information on towns that are only 10 kilometers apart. This way the Ethnic Tibet page can be linked later to the Sichuan, Gansu, Qinghai and Yunnan pages.
I think I am starting to understand it now.
OK, this is starting to make more sense. Since as you say there is a major difference between how you'd travel around Ethnic Tibet and how you'd travel around the TAR, it seems to make sense to have a separate article for each. I've had a look at what you've done in the Tibet article, and that's making a bit more sense too. Especially with the subdivision of Tibetan regions in China, India, Nepal and Bhutan.
I aim to please. Any further suggestions would be great.