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1. Posted by Kyra (Inactive 10 posts) 8y

I'm currently living in Seattle, which is where I was born and raised and my dad recently got a job offer in Honolulu, Hawaii, which he took. So at the end of July, we'll be moving to Honolulu and this is 100% certain. I was wondering how the housing is there, since I've been looking at the houses for sale. I'm aware that the cost of living there is 30% more than Seattle, but from what I've seen many of the houses around $800,000 and $900,000 seem to be poor quality. Also, I'm not really sure about how the people are there - are they nice? Do they treat white people badly? Does anyone have any advise?


2. Posted by SamSalmon (Respected Member 626 posts) 8y

I wasn't going to touch this since so many people think of Hawaii as some kind of paradise-having been there three times and knowing all kinds of people who have moved there at one time or another I know different.

First off Yes housing is incredibly expensive, Hawaiians often live 3 even 4 families to a house just to pay rent-some work 2 even 3 jobs to make ends meet.

Education is execrable-imagine high school grads who can't speak standard English just the local pidgin/gibberish.People have been cheated on their education they aren't stupid but their lack of words-remember thoughts follow words-means some very frustrated individuals who often come across as surly even when they aren't.

Politics are corrupt and nasty more like the Deep South than anywhere else.

Resentment against white people runs deep especially in rural areas-locals actually believe they own certain surf breaks for instance, maybe this is a reaction against their crippling poverty and marginalisation but they can be and often are violent and nasty-never travel alone.

The ironic part of all this is that there are very few real Hawaiians left at all-almost everyone is mixed race-or fruit salad as some call it.

I don't envy you-Honolulu is a troubled place but you'll soon learn where not to go after dark-in that regard it's not all that different from Seattle.

Some great restaurants in Honolulu-pricey but well done.

3. Posted by Cool Paul (Travel Guru 611 posts) 8y

Hmmm... resentment to white people? poor education? expensive? Dangerous at night?

HAHA! that pretty much describes every major american city.

At least the weather is nice.

4. Posted by snowplain (Budding Member 21 posts) 8y

Honolulu has its problems for sure, but it's still a more attractive place to live than most US cities. Yes house prices tend to be higher - how much so depends on where on the mainland you're drawing a comparison with. The higher prices are a bad thing when you want to buy one, but don't forget it's also a good sign in terms of the area - they're higher because people want to live there. Property over there tends to be a good investment also, because there's only so much space for expansion.

You will find racial tension, but it doesn't exceed what you'd encounter in quite a lot of areas on the mainland, even if it does have a bit of a different form - and if it makes a difference to you, there is a very large and visible white population there. As with most places, if you treat everyone you meet with respect you're unlikely to run into any significant difficulties.

Good luck with your move - and btw, though you're certainly in the right place geographically, I think you might have more luck finding people who know their way around Hawaii in the North America section. :)

Edit: Was this in Australia, NZ and Pacific when I posted, or was I high?

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 18, 2008, at 6:16 AM by snowplain ]

5. Posted by Kyra (Inactive 10 posts) 8y

That was my fault, I think I put it in Austriala, NZ and the Pacific since Hawaii is in the Pacific. Pretty sure I was the one who was high there, my bad.

Thanks for the replies though, they are certainly helpful.

6. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 8y

I remember giving you a bit of advice on staying in a Vegas hostel at your age. Not going to happen if you recall. You are certainly one precocious young lady. Worrying about housing at age 15. Perhaps mom and/or dad will really have to fight this battle? That would be my guess.

Now living costs in Honolulu. There is a very significant population of ex-Hawaiians living here in Vegas. The combination of low wages and high cost of living forced them to relocate. And since many Hawaiian love to gamble, "Las Vegas, here we come!" They voted with their feet. That should tell you how expensive it is.

Now your question on how white people will be treated. I went to UH many years ago and did find resentment towards me by the local lads. However, you are going to treated quite well. The local lads love young mainland girls, so you will have plenty of positive attention. Your dad, not so much.