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21. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

Quoting Dodger

Im not sure where you get your prices from, but I think I need to buy through you! ;)

I just checked my local memory card supply store for the card prices, and then quickly looked at Amazon to make certain the prices in the USA match. And indeed, SanDisk 1 GB Ultra II Secure Digital Memory Card currently lists for $9.99 at Amazon. (The list price and "discount" with memory cards is always something you can ignore, as these products are beating even Moore's law, doubling in capacity (with prices halving) every year or so.)

No damage done, the payment has been stopped and the card canceled just in case they try to use the info from it again

Ooh, good for you! I didn't expect it, but I'm glad my warning came in time.

Oh I just realized your the guy that said dont buy Sony, but you still havent told us why?

Heh, that's a subject which deserves an endless thread all of its own, really, but in a nutshell: Sony is a company which has shown time and again that it sees its own customers as a threat, trying to control and limit what said customers can do with their products, through technological measures (DRM), through political measures (lobbying for bad laws; for example to protect their technological measures when they're found to be flawed), through legal measures (lawsuits by the tens of thousands) and through downright criminal measures (including rootkits on their CDs). Sony pushes its own proprietary non-standard formats whenever possible (atrac3 versus mp3, memorystick versus compact flash & secure digital, etc, etc). Admittedly a lot of that doesn't have direct bearing on their camera division, but in the end it's the same company, with the same values guiding product development. They believe it's not in their best interest to do the best possible thing for their customers. It's in our best interest as customers to repay this attitude by not buying from them.
Plus there's just downright better cameras out there then what Sony produces.

22. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 8y

Quoting Sander

]Heh, that's a subject which deserves an endless thread all of its own, really, but in a nutshell: Sony is a company which has shown time and again that it sees its own customers as a threat, trying to control and limit what said customers can do with their products, through technological measures (DRM), through political measures (lobbying for bad laws; for example to protect their technological measures when they're found to be flawed), through legal measures (lawsuits by the tens of thousands) and through downright criminal measures (including rootkits on their CDs). Sony pushes its own proprietary non-standard formats whenever possible (atrac3 versus mp3, memorystick versus compact flash & secure digital, etc, etc). Admittedly a lot of that doesn't have direct bearing on their camera division, but in the end it's the same company, with the same values guiding product development. They believe it's not in their best interest to do the best possible thing for their customers. It's in our best interest as customers to repay this attitude by not buying from them.
Plus there's just downright better cameras out there then what Sony produces.

This could be aimed Apple and other companies also

23. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

Yes, Apple does bad things, too. I'm very much not a fan of Apple personally, and the only reason I recommend them to people is because balancing their evilness against Microsoft leads to a better world than having a one-evil monopoly. And Apple's evilness is several orders of magnitude less than Sony's. They do promote lock-in, and they even have a couple of stupid lawsuits to their name, but they also work really hard at helping foster open standards where these don't directly impact their core business, are willing to work with open source projects (if perhaps not always in the most constructive way possible), have actually fought against DRM, and they definitely didn't purposefully ship any rootkits on their products.

They also don't create compact cameras, so I don't quite see what their behaviour has to do with this thread. :)

24. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 8y

Ahem - not that lm the mod of this forum or anything - but theres LOTS on this thread not relevant to MY original question

But l dont care lve got my new camera now and it fits what l need perfectly!!

If Isa was in charge this sort of thing wouldnt be happening...... Purdy now runs away and hides!

25. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 8y

In my defense, I did resist answering the original off-topic dragging question the first time it came around, as you were still looking for the perfect camera then.

Plus Isa gives me cheesecake; that helps with me being better behaved in her forums. ;)

*also runs away and hides now*

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 11, 2008, at 3:09 PM by Sander ]

26. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 8y

In my defence i've got a very short attention span, lovely day out side sunshine and warm.

But ok offtopic or not it's an issue with companies and their proprietary software and standards. they are all as bad, just different forms of evil (unless you use freeware/open).

H, glad you have a lovely new camera, (we can swap if you like).

And Isa offered me free Guinness and photo's of .......... jase ducks behind couch

27. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 8y

Sorry J but you are way to big to hide behind a sofa - we can still see you

Ok sorry Sander & Q, should prob let this thread die away now!

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 13, 2008, at 1:29 AM by Purdy ]

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