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11. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 8y

Quoting Mel.

Some in a very simple minded way believe that democracy means majority rules .

Erm . . . it does.

To paraphrase Ben Franklin, democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

12. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 8y

Difficult to express myself on this topic.
In general, I agree a lot with Wotthefiqh.
It's not the Islam as a whole that is some sort of religion that should be banned in my opinion, it's the extremists that want the whole world to be a moslim that are the real danger and are not open at all to let others having their own religion. That and the fact that some totally insane parts of islamic belief (for example the policy against gays) is what makes this religion just so arguable in the first places.
Personally, I don't have any problems with whatever religion and he or she can believe whatever he or she likes. But inforcing things on others, without the respect of other religions or sexuality for that matter is just plane stupid and only for the real fools on this planet, who do not enjoy the joys of everyday life....pretty pathetic actually if you think of it.
And should Geert Wilder continue his battle? Well, it's not forbidden to do so, if it questions the really nasty things of the Islam. It should be if it's just something against the Islam as a whole out of his own frustrations...like his hair

13. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

It's not forbidden to express you feelings about anything, as long as you don't cross the borders set in the constitution. That mean you can talk negative about Islam, but it also means you can talk negative about Geert Wilders. If you don't agree you have every right to disagree, and enough means to express your opinion. If you still don't agree go see a judge.

With all due respect for the man, but this is the village idiot from Venlo, who is very clever in delivering one-liners, and avoiding any debate anyone wants to have, who opposes his views. In other words, he's a loud-mouth, without any power. And I hope that people will view him like what he is: the village idiot.

14. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 8y

Exactly Herr Bert. The chap should be permitted to express whatever foolish and naive view he wishes, provided he doesn't physically enforce its consequences on others. The rest of us should be permitted to express the view that he's a bloddy idiot, should we so wish. Let's just hope that the islamic community join with us in expressing the view that he's an idiot, rather than apparently endorsing it by threatening violence in response......

15. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Geert better haul ass.
The Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC), that august body of thiefs, thugs and tyrants (Gadfly, Assad, Adjamabbady, Bashir, etc), recently met in Senegal and wants to use the United Nations and Western democratic laws of discrimination to illegalitimise any negative remark about Islam in any way, shape or form.
Get you licks in quick before a 7th century mullah fatwah's your grandmother.
Dhimmitude coming to you soon, Australia and the US excluded (Free Mark Steyn will decide Canuckistan).
Whats' Farsi or Arabic for 'Sling Your F***ing Hook'?

16. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

You can find the movie at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

17. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting wotthefiqh

You can find the movie at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

It has been removed.

18. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Quoting wotthefiqh

You can find the movie at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

It has been removed.

So it has, under threats to liveleak staff of a very serious nature.
Why doesn't that surprise me

dhimmitude awaits

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 28, 2008, at 9:41 PM by wotthefiqh ]

19. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

The movie at www.liveleak.com has been removed due to threats of
violence (who wants to star in a head-lopping vid on youtube?) so try
this one

www.jihadwatch.org

'see the movie Fitna' is on the left hand side

20. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 8y

The whole movie should be totally ignored by the media. Not only is there nothing new in the movie at all, basically all it says is that it is against islamic extremists, not the islam. Well, aren't we all?

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