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151. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 8y

Quoting wotthefiqh

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting Mel.

I thought Islam was kinda silly when I was in Iran.

Why is it kind of silly? If you say something you should give some argument. That would give a good start for a discussion, this is just a loose statement.;)

Pretty ripe coming from a member whose sole response to my dissertation on the bollocks of Western cultural guilt( post #53) is -

are you a crusader wotthefiq? (post #54)

P.S. Gave ya 1/2 an answer

I think its not needed to explain why i asked you this question. It was meant as rhetorical question, I thought that was clear also considering the posts that followed on post #54. you basically are a crusader, so it is nothing new!;)

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153. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 8y

And what is that form of Islam they have in Saudi? I forget the name of it. And the other islamic countries.....??
Wouter the only acceptable form of Islam is either the half hearted attempts some make at being religious because that is what is expected or the type that has been watered down under duress due to pressure from society(civilised society that is, not the type who have pictures of maniacs on their walls and carelessly disregard those who have been killed and tortured by the lunatic). Islam is a crime against humanity. But not just Islam...... Hell, we dont have to look far to see what is wrong with the others.

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156. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 8y

Quoting wouterrr

................... yet his picture is in every Iranian house and you can not critizise him.

SHAME ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have deterioriated to alaming levels since the worlds very first Human Rights doccument was made in Persia.
Human Rights standards are part of their history but sadly not part of their culture.

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158. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 8y

And religion is sexist.
Anyone who claims to like women and be religious at the same time is bullshitting.
Those two things simply dont go together. god says women are not as good at men are. All the religious books state it. It should be made illegal on those grounds alone. Discrimination against groups in society is supposed to be illegal isnt it??? When are we all going to become properly civilised and ban religion in our societies.???

159. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 8y

Quoting Mel.

And religion is sexist.
Anyone who claims to like women and be religious at the same time is bullshitting.
Those two things simply dont go together. god says women are not as good at men are. All the religious books state it. It should be made illegal on those grounds alone. Discrimination against groups in society is supposed to be illegal isnt it??? When are we all going to become properly civilised and ban religion in our societies.???

You can think like this, it is your right. But I don't think it is as black and white as you state it here. Many people feel good with religion and put strength out of it:). Otherwise the billions of people that believe in a God in any religion would stop believing. I think there are more people that do believe in something than people that believe absolutely nothing.

[ Edit: Edited on May 4, 2008, at 1:37 PM by wouterrr ]

160. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting wotthefiqh

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting Mel.

I thought Islam was kinda silly when I was in Iran.

Why is it kind of silly? If you say something you should give some argument. That would give a good start for a discussion, this is just a loose statement.;)

Pretty ripe coming from a member whose sole response to my dissertation on the bollocks of Western cultural guilt( post #53) is -

are you a crusader wotthefiq? (post #54)

P.S. Gave ya 1/2 an answer

I think its not needed to explain why i asked you this question. It was meant as rhetorical question, I thought that was clear also considering the posts that followed on post #54. you basically are a crusader, so it is nothing new!;)

You are actually serious in labelling me a CRUSADER

Your scurrilious and defamatory allegation can either be -

1) substantiated with some cogent argument (you apply the concept to Mel but not to yourself)

OR

2) viewed as nothing more than hollow sloganeering

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