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231. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 7y

yes ofcourse america is responsible. anyone who doesnt agree with it needs to walk out of his/her eutopia RIGHT NOW!
i am sick and tired of this stupid debate about islamization of europe. you know, i am in a better state to answer this now since i am in europe now myself for the past couple of months, and my god am i shocked to see the"muslims" everybody is so scared of! HA HA
THESE people want sharia? its almost hilarious! some europeans themselves dress better than these weird turkish women! i think i have only seen twice a woman wearing that complete burqa. it is not islamization of europe that is the problem, in fact, europe is undergoing a cultural shock! i hope europeans can atleast feel how the people of the sub-continent must have felt when they colonized us! only that the europeans came with the intent of ruling it and taking it over!
the deal is that in islam this is how it goes: if a non-muslim is living in a muslim country, then according to islam, he will be dealt with the law of the religion he/she belongs to. for e.g. in pakistan drinking is punishable by law, public or private. but a non-muslim can drink, and the law cannot stop him. and this is probably what the muslims in europe want, to be dealt with according to the muslim law.
but i think it is a lot more complicated than this. i dont see these muslims walking in the streets who would like sharia! then where are those who want it? a rumor isnt born without some truth behind it. today more americans are questioning waht the american government is doing.
and this has just been an ancient debate: the muslims do somethign bad: OMG
america does anything bad: oh they r the savior of the world, they r the only fighting the war on terrorism! ON?? i think america is fighting a war FOR terrorism! fuck the new world order ... and fuck politics. all these extremist bastards are drinking together behind doors! be it bush, muslims extremists or whoever else! politics itself needs to be overthrown!
america has made everything so politicized and complicated (all to their benefit) that it so dificult to prove the point.
i dont freaking care what people say about islam ... becuz i know better ... and i dont need to defend anything. they need to get better information themselves .. other than what media says, OTHER THAN WHAT PHILOSOPHERS ON POT SAY, and other than what stupid white extremists have to say on youtube! SHAME ON THEM FOR THEIR LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND DISTORTED PERSPECTIVE!

232. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 7y

Just your friendly neighborhood Moderator here...
I don't care who responds to this thread next or which direction it takes (as it has done some twists and turns already). I only ask that everyone remember to play nicely with each other.

Isa now returns this thread to (sort of) topic.

233. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Isadora

Just your friendly neighborhood Moderator here...

LOL, this sentence made me laugh and made my day

234. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

Got back 4 hours ago from my three week Indonesian BINTANG JIHAD (knocking the tops of large beer bottles rather than http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1139505/Horrifying-video-militants-beheading-Polish-engineer-released- and find that my mate Geert stirred up a Dhimmi nest just days after my departure.
I missed the disgusting act of political soixante-neuf(isn't one party always in the reverse position?) perpetrated by the UK Home Secretary and the Dutch Prime or Foreign Minister (conceptualise the thought, don't visualise it ).

The United Kingdom government refused him entry to the UK because his views ‘threaten community harmony and therefore public security’.
For 'community harmony, read - terrified of moslems baying for his blood in the streets of Leicester and Rotherham)'.
The mother of parliaments, free speech, the country of Churchill reduced to Nowill in 60 years.
What gutless f***** bastards.

The Dutch Prime or Foreign Minister (let's prosecute Wilders in the Netherlands for telling the truth) does a dummy-spit
cause a democratically elected Dutch parliamentarian is refused entry into the UK (read - better having moslems calling for Geert's beheading in UK streets rather than Leiden or Rotterdam).

We then finish off with a menage-a-trois, where moslem Lord Ahmed of the UK House of Lords threatens to mobilise 10,000 moslems to intimidate the House in it's lawful and constitutional political role.
If Churchill was alive, Ahmed would be in the Tower facing treason charges.

If I wrote this script 30 years ago I'd still be in a straightjacket (and probably should be anyway!!!!).

Islam is going to sink Europe into a dark age from which there will be no escape.

You know this, Frodo.

235. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 7y

Wothefik, you are back. Did you get what you wanted in Indonesia?;)

236. Posted by tleb (Full Member 117 posts) 7y

It's extremists who cause problems. Period.

Except maybe the Buddhists. They just seem to light themselves on fire. And really, thats a personal choice.

237. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 7y

Quoting tleb

It's extremists who cause problems. Period.

Except maybe the Buddhists. They just seem to light themselves on fire. And really, thats a personal choice.

Can't agree with you more.

238. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

Quoting wouterrr

They would like to see Europe to be Islamic

In my post after your honest (but fucking scary) quote I asked you the question 'Are there any citizens of Europe who want to Buddhify, Hindify or Rastafarify (my favourite ) the EU?

Your reply was something about linking American foreign policy to islamic mass-murder.

If you can't answer my question, just say so instead of avoiding it.

If you are unable to answer question 1, try question 2 -

Why would anyone move from Islam to the EU and want to turn it into the society/culture they just fled from?

[ Edit: Edited on 15-Mar-2009, at 06:05 by wotthefiqh ]

239. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

Quoting fuchsinrot

yes of course america is responsible.
Always the victim, never the perpetrator. You've been listening to Hamid Gul again, haven't you?
anyone who doesnt agree with it needs to walk out of his/her eutopia RIGHT NOW!
Choose your eutopia - Napa Valley or Swat Valley, smooth shiraz or strict Sharia, gourmet dining or head-lopping
i am sick and tired of this stupid debate about islamization of europe. you know, i am in a better state to answer this now since i am in europe now myself for the past couple of months, and my god am i shocked to see the"muslims" everybody is so scared of! HA HA
THESE people want sharia? its almost hilarious! some europeans themselves dress better than these weird turkish women! i think i have only seen twice a woman wearing that complete burqa. it is not islamization of europe that is the problem, in fact, europe is undergoing a cultural shock! i hope europeans can atleast feel how the people of the sub-continent must have felt when they colonized us!
The Indian sub-continent was imperialised rather than colonised. There was no mass emigration of British citizens to Pakistan or India in the 19th century, no shopkeepers from Leicester or Peterborough opening corner shops in Lahore or Peshawar in 1888. How many kafir Brits live in Pakistan and how many Pakistanis live in the UK in 2009? Now that's what I call colonisation
only that the europeans came with the intent of ruling it and taking it over!
Islam hasn't done too badly in the imperialist and colonialist stakes. Early Islamic empire (North Africa/Spain/Persia etc) then the Ottoman Empire (finally conquered Constantinople after 800 years of aggression plus most of the Balkans west to Belgrade and the moslem Moghul Empire conquering most of India).
the deal is that in islam this is how it goes: if a non-muslim is living in a muslim country, then according to islam, he will be dealt with the law of the religion he/she belongs to. for e.g. in pakistan drinking is punishable by law, public or private. but a non-muslim can drink, and the law cannot stop him. and this is probably what the muslims in europe want, to be dealt with according to the muslim law.
but i think it is a lot more complicated than this. i dont see these muslims walking in the streets who would like sharia! then where are those who want it?
When the Archie of Canterbury advocated implementing parts of Sharia law in the UK, lotsa imams and moslem community leaders here in Australia came out of woodwork rejoicing at the idea and suggesting that the same should apply here. They copped a real bitch-slapping and deservedly so cause Ozzies don't want primitive Sharia law in their 21st century liberal democratic society.
a rumor isnt born without some truth behind it. today more americans are questioning waht the american government is doing.
and this has just been an ancient debate: the muslims do somethign bad: OMG
america does anything bad: oh they r the savior of the world, they r the only fighting the war on terrorism! ON?? i think america is fighting a war FOR terrorism! fuck the new world order ... and fuck politics.
Considering the political shambles in Pakistan, I'm not surprised you got out of there.
all these extremist bastards are drinking together behind doors! be it bush, muslims extremists or whoever else! politics itself needs to be overthrown!
america has made everything so politicized and complicated (all to their benefit) that it so dificult to prove the point.
i dont freaking care what people say about islam ... becuz i know better ... AND SO DO I and i dont need to defend anything. they need to get better information themselves .. other than what media says, OTHER THAN WHAT PHILOSOPHERS ON POT SAY, and other than what stupid white extremists have to say on youtube! SHAME ON THEM FOR THEIR LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND DISTORTED PERSPECTIVE!
If you can give the GREAT SATIN a serve, surely Geert deserves the "quid pro quo" of expressing his opinion of Islam

240. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 7y

Quoting wotthefiqh

If you can give the GREAT SATIN a serve, surely Geert deserves the "quid pro quo" of expressing his opinion of Islam

Personally, I prefer cotton.

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