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41. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting wotthefiqh

Quoting Herr Bert

In my opinion Islam is not the real problem, it only serves as a justification (or vehicle).

The real underlaying problem is the unequal distribution of wealth, unequality of chances, and sheer discrimination. The so called West only thinks about it's own position in the world, and doesn't do anything to really help other countries. Countries that they in lot of cases stripped from their natural and human resources. (gold, diamonds, slavery). We are focussing much too hard on the religious extremists (which of course have to be stopped), but don't care to do anything about the real problem.

Conservative Islam (which extends from Morocco east to Pakistan) exhibits the same behavioural patterns as those of a chronic alcoholic.
An Alkie goes on a huge bender and wakes up with three day's shit in his pants. Islam goes on a six hundred year social/cultural/intellectual stagnation bender and wakes up with Wahhabism, Salafism, Jihadism and the Iranian ayatollahs as their excremental end product.

Don't even get your point, or even why this is an answer to my post. (as you quoted it, I am sure in a strange way it is) but .... if we keep comparing, then you can say that the capitalist West is acting like a spoiled 5 year old boy, that collects all the toys in the classroom, keeps all the toys for himself, and hits someone who want to play with one of the million pieces of toys it has gathered.

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43. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

i really wish these extremists would stop being associated with Islam and stop being known as muslims ... cuz they just arent. a person who says he is muslim .... but still kills fellow muslims ... i have doubts about his identity then. is it someone who is against muslims and doing terrorist acts in the name of islam only to put islam in a further bad name? or they just confused muslims who have been brainwashed by barbaric human beings who have unfortunately been brought up in a muslim world with weird, unrealistic , far from islamic ideoligies?
i am a muslim. when someone from the west does something weird in the name of freedom of speech ... why am i hurt as well? why is my property vandalized? i am against these terrorists too alongside many other fellows of mine. when the actual peace-loving muslims who are really educated and know what islam is abt and are peaceful towards other religions DISOWN these terrorists ... then why are they still being associated as one of us?
just like u say wilders is ONE man and he doesnt project the minds of the other dutch ... these terrorists are also ONE group and do not project Islam.

44. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

[quote=arif_kool
It is really sad that u know little about Islam

Perhaps a little bit of enlightenment will bring more reasoning in ur arguments[/quote]

S'funny,
Most semi-literate mullahs scream hatred of the West and they wouldn't know 21st century democratic principles if they jumped up and bit the sick f***s in the ass.

45. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Quoting wotthefiqh

[quote=arif_kool
It is really sad that u know little about Islam

Perhaps a little bit of enlightenment will bring more reasoning in ur arguments

S'funny,
Most semi-literate mullahs scream hatred of the West and they wouldn't know 21st century democratic principles if they jumped up and bit the sick f***s in the ass.[/quote]

U seem to be a frustated person... I feel pity on u

I wonder why u still want to visit a Muslim country(Indonesia), if ur so critical of Islam. I am sure u wont dare to speak such uncivilized language there:)

46. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Quoting arif_kool

Quoting wotthefiqh

[quote=arif_kool
It is really sad that u know little about Islam

Perhaps a little bit of enlightenment will bring more reasoning in ur arguments

S'funny,
Most semi-literate mullahs scream hatred of the West and they wouldn't know 21st century democratic principles if they jumped up and bit the sick f***s in the ass.

U seem to be a frustated person... I feel pity on u

I wonder why u still want to visit a Muslim country(Indonesia), if ur so critical of Islam. I am sure u wont dare to speak such uncivilized language there:)[/quote]

Bali is Hindu.

47. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

Bali has Hindu population but it is part of Indonesia, which is a muslim country. U have only 3 nights in Bali, what about the time that u have at ur disposal.

Moreover, u have mentioned in ur thread that u have already covered many parts of Indonesia. anyway there is no point in discussing such things with a person with a prejudiced mind:)

48. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting fuchsinrot

just like u say wilders is ONE man and he doesnt project the minds of the other dutch ... these terrorists are also ONE group and do not project Islam.

Yesterday there has been an anti-Islam march in The Hague ... the number of people that turned up: 25 !!! (there were more journalists than protesters.)

49. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

so that is good "Herr" ... na?
its good that less people are there for doing the bad things ... one man doing weird movies ... small group behind a weird cause .... the masses should never be for such atrocities.

50. Posted by arif_kool (Travel Guru 1757 posts) 8y

The majority in most of the countries is not behind such hate politics. Only a handful few misinterpret the holy scriptures and try to disturb the communal harmony.

I am indeed happy to find that such a demonstration had only a handful of supporters.

Hope everyone understands this and delinks religion from politics which will make this world a better place to live in

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