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1. Posted by Traveloat (Budding Member 53 posts) 8y

Hi,

In September, my fiance and I are starting our year away from work :D

As neither of us are used to travelling we are going to be going with shoestring travel from moscow through to beijing (only £700 per person for all accomodation, transfers and train tickets for 16 days, wasn't much more expensive then doing it ourselves and takes some stress away!) Problem is getting to Moscow. We do not want to fly, so we will be going by train - our dilema is whether to journey through Belarus and pay the £50per person transit visa fee (which we would include one day in Minsk to make it sort of worthwhile) or journey around Belarus to avoid paying this - but having travelling times increased. I just wondered if anyone has done either of these routes, and what they would suggest would be the best option?!? Any advice would be great!

Thanks

2. Posted by vickim (Full Member 125 posts) 8y

From what I heard Belarus and the Ukraine can be difficult travelling, especially when you are in transit and not spending money.

I have also heard that Lithuania and Latvia are very nice and friendly and a wonderful experience. If I were giong, I would plan that route.

3. Posted by dynamo (Budding Member 26 posts) 8y

Quoting vickim

From what I heard Belarus and the Ukraine can be difficult travelling, especially when you are in transit and not spending money.

I have also heard that Lithuania and Latvia are very nice and friendly and a wonderful experience. If I were giong, I would plan that route.

Ukraines easy and cheap once you get over the language barrier....bit of detour though if your going to Moscow!

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 27, 2008, at 8:48 AM by dynamo ]

4. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 8y

It depends on if the goal is to save money or not. If you avoid Belarus, are you trying to travel directly to Moscow or stop off along the way?

You can go via Lviv and Kiev, which would add journey time (and cost of tickets), but is it really worth doing that if you aren't going to stop off along the way and have a look? Similarly, you could go via Lithuania and Latvia, but is it worth doing so if you aren't going to stop off?

All 3 options are fine and perfectly valid - it just depends on if the goal is to get to Moscow quickly, as cheap as possible, or to see some things on the way.

Note that if you do go via the Baltic states, all direct Vilnius (Lithuania) - Moscow trains go via Belarus anyway, meaning that you would need that transit visa, or, you have to go via Latvia. Also note that through Poland-Lithuania trains avoiding Belarus don't always run, and in recent years have not run more often than they have (it is still unknown if they will run this summer, as the schedules are still TBC), so you may end up having to change at the border, and a Warszawa-Vilnius trip will take most of the day. You could go overnight by bus instead.

If it helps, i have done all 3 routes on at least 3 or 4 occasions each, and have been to all places concerned many more times, so if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

5. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 8y

If you haven't already bought the train tickets for Russia I would go to Bratislava and buy a City Star Ticket there and go via the Ukraine. This would be the cheapest and best option on how to get from Germany to China by train - but only if you don't already have tickets for the train from Moscow.

See http://citystarticket.blogspot.com/2007/07/citystar-ticket-to-russia.html for more information

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