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why is aviation said to be NOT a "normal business"???

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1. Posted by deltagurl (First Time Poster 1 posts) 8y

Hello everyone!
im new here. I am a second year tourism student at university. Could somebody explain to me why an article in The Economist said that

America's big airlines are desperate to merge(...) The current system damages consumers everywhere by perpetuating the idea that aviation is not a normal business.


Im sorry but I dont understand what this sentence means. why isnt it a normal business??

Any reply would be most welcomed

Thanxx

2. Posted by Cay (Budding Member 34 posts) 8y

I think

The current system damages consumers everywhere by perpetuating the idea that aviation is not a normal business.

I think whoever is writing this is trying to say that aviation should be seen as a normal business. However; aviation really isn't is it? i think it's something that should be run by one person...or all airline companies in one group.

Not sure it helps....

3. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

Quoting deltagurl

America's big airlines are desperate to merge(...) The current system damages consumers everywhere by perpetuating the idea that aviation is not a normal business.

My guess is that they're saying the aviation industry, by claiming their business is not the norm, can justify charging huge prices in North America. Merging means a monopoly--which means bloated prices and a lot less service. Was the article also comparing NA's industry to that of Europe or Asia, which provide low-cost carriers...?

That said, I don't understand why they wrote "damages consumers everywhere"--damages consumer opinion, or preys on consumers, but not damages consumers.

Hope that helps!

4. Posted by deltagurl2 (Budding Member 8 posts) 8y

Thank u both for ur replies...it really does help ...

actually i had a problem with my password so i created a new account...its still me though

In that article of The Economist they wanted to merge Delta with Northwest the 3rd and 5th biggest american airlines. Yes it does talk about low-cost carriers. But Low-cost are not seen as a real threet to them from my point of view as they do not have the same clientèle as scheduled airlines. I even did not understand of which system they were talking about.

In fact I must analyse articles in relation with travel and tourism for one of my assignments.

Thank u for your help Cay and Tway:)

5. Posted by angenaline (Budding Member 44 posts) 8y

Having worked in the aviation business for nine years, I can say that it is a completely normal business. There are profits, losses (more of those than the other) overhead, budgets, and everything else business related. However, like each industry different things work in this one than others. The thing is that the general public doesn't understand how aviation works. And the truth is, it is nearly impossible to make money in aviation. Overhead is sky-high, and federal regulations only compound the problem, (not that I'm advocating no regulation). The "not a normal business" comment probably stems from the fact that aviation is widely viewed as a money pit, therefore, it is often not a money making venture like other businesses.

Also, I'd just like to add that aviation IS a money pit. Any budding pilots out there, take note. You must be in aviation for the love of it.

6. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

I've worked in aviation for more than half of my life. There's a lot of history you have to understand. Aviation came out of advanced research. The first use of advanced materials, jet engines, advanced physics, etc. all transitioned from the university research labs strait to airplanes. Infact a good part of what aviation uses to sell itself and justify its existance is that it takes on the risk to make that transition by paying for the infrastructure to put these advanced technology into practical use. The same factory that builds carbon fiber panels for Boeing can also build bicycle frames, for instance. This is why it's a big money pit, and governments happily pay for it. This was true in especially military aviation and the space program. However, the people who run and make decisions in the airlines come from this background and still show some of their old roots (perhaps).

Airline consolidation, like any business case for consolidation, argues that by joining forces you get increased efficiencies, decreased waste, etc. The arguement presented in this article seems to say the ex-military/space/aviation people who run these airlines are thinking in the "old" way and should wake up and run things based on the best business case. That's what I think they're saying. I don't know how strong their arguments are or enough about the background of the global airline business so I can't say if I agree with them.

Hope that helps.

7. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 8y

I'd like to point out that the aviation industry manages to keep planes in the air (in the US anyway) using a radar system that is not only completely antiquated but is staffed by people who are stretched to the limit of human capability. Imagine working an 18 hour day, in a crowded and noisy control room, and being responsible for the lives of oh, say 10,000 people a day. The planes line up and keep coming. The weather plays havoc with schedules, maintenance takes it's toll, and dammit if you didn't just give up smoking and amphetamines!!!

Oh, and passengers are not exactly what they used to be. Sure, airline service has gone into the toilet, but passengers haven't helped that any. Some people don't get catered to as they think they should, and they wind up defecating on a service cart. WTF???

Oh for the day when planes are equipped with GPS and pilots can actually see what's around them. Then they might actually be able to make an approach in a straight line (instead of the traditional circling) and coast down to the runway, saving time and fuel. or, they can clean and reload their revolvers.......

8. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting beerman

Some people don't get catered to as they think they should, and they wind up defecating on a service cart. WTF???

"Sir, would you like some nuts from the service cart?"

9. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 8y

But think of the DIVIDENDS !!!! Won't somebody please think of the DIVIDENDS !!!!

10. Posted by deltagurl2 (Budding Member 8 posts) 8y

Thanxx for sharing ur opinions and experience. I appreciate