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11. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

Hey Sam,

Would be interested maybe in a TP trip, but afraid not at that price -the basic of 1000gbp seems somewhere between Highway robbery and bullion heist to me

12. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

That sounds even better. We could just pick a date, meet in St. Petersburg and get started!!! Now that is my kind of travelling :)
I am definitely up for it and the sooner a date is set the easier it will be to commit.

Rich, you've done this trip before (for a part).... if we pick a date and a rough length of time (say 23 days), then how would that sound to start things off? I am open to all manner of dates, but would personally prefer something around June - October next year. What time is the best for this trip? We'll have to make it flexible I think; everyone that wants to be there has to take care of the basics for themselves to ensure they are there when the trip starts. Also, if someone decides to stop off and stay somewhere longer than others, that should be possible etc.

What do you think? My vote for a starting date (based on nothing really so I am flexible to change) would be 15 June 2005.

Bring it on!!

Sam

13. Posted by aglaja (Budding Member 16 posts) 11y

Hi all you Siberean enthusiasths!

The best time to travel trough Siberia is during July and August because of the weather. It is also the most crowded time. You don't do it with one train but switching between "local" trains and skipping 2000 kms when there's nothing to see but a beautiful nature. Cities that you travel trough are usually:

a) towns as result of a mine or something because of what there was a need for people and they just sent them there
b) towns as result of a gulags. Some of those people were evicted even after they have served their years and had to stay somewhere in siberia. Irkutsk is it suppose to be one of the intelectual centers of Siberia. But beware. As you leave Moscow or St. Petersburg you are entering the real Russia, which is completly different. It is beautiful but different. Some basic Russian is really welcome or at least Cyrillic:))


So these towns are not too old, that means that sometimes you don't have to see anything else but tho main roads and a city museum. People are nice.

If you make it to Bajkal, you won't be sorry.

If you have picked a destination then it is better to take express trains to it, if don't 20 days are not enough to do the whole Siberia.

Natasha

14. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

Hi Sam,

The idea sounds good to me. Definitely the best way of travel to just turn up and make it up as you go along (within reason).

Think personally i'd prefer to go abit earlier (say mid April, possibly May - whilst there is still at least a hint of winter about, and before the "crowds" turn up), but am also flexible. Certainly think that all meeting in St. Pete's (or Moscow) is a decent idea and that it should be open and people able to come and go as they please.

One idea would be for people to get together somewhere else first (Tallinn/Riga/Helsinki are the obvious ones) and head into St. P from there together. Also if there is a group, hiring an appt in St. P/Moscow for a few days often works out cheaper than hostels etc.

Natasha - where would you recommend stopping en route that other people may not come up with? I've stopped off in a few places, but mainly the bigger cities and for work rather than tourism reasons.

Agree that you use the more local (by Russian standards)/non end to end trains etc if your doing it properly as it's much better and you meet more interesting people - Just that most people that do a trans sib either spend so long in Moscow/St. P that they don't have enough time to stop off in allot of places, or just aren't brave enough to stop off in random places...

So, semi seriously at least, if we went for it in May/June whenever, who'd be up for it?

15. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

I am up for it early April or else somewhere in the summer-late summer. Problem with May all of a sudden is that I have a wedding in France that popped up. There are worse problems I know :)

It would be kind of nice to do it with the winter still around.... adds to the atmosphere and makes the vodka taste even better

Cheers,

Sam

16. Posted by OTT (First Time Poster 1 posts) 11y

hate to barge in so late in the thread..am thinking of June 2005 on the trans-siberian...

any updated info ? I'll share stuff as i get to know more!

cheers

" OTT " ;)

17. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 11y

Hi Ott,

Still nothing finalized, looking at different dates at the moment... there are at least a few of us keen to go so it would be cool if we could arrange something.

Will put your vote down for June then :)

cheers,

Sam

18. Posted by aglaja (Budding Member 16 posts) 11y

Hi there!

The places that are worth seeing are: Kazan (european part - before Ural), Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk (DO NOT skip the Baykal lake!!! - it is the deepest lake in the world, with clean fresh water -at least Russia says so- , which is supposed to be the biggest water reserve), Altai and Vladivostok.

I recomend one way train, back way plane. It impossible to take a train in both ways, because you won+t see anything. I recomend you at least 3 or 4 days at Baikal - you will love it! and if you have a week to spend on Altai - do it! Horseriding recomended.

And don't forget: If the nice Siberian people have left you a load of wood to make your night fire, it is a custom to do likewise before leaving:)

I hope this will help:)
Natasha

19. Posted by kody (Respected Member 234 posts) 11y

Take a look...

http://www.dzof.org/bigtripindex.html

Cool isn't it?

Nick

20. Posted by saez (First Time Poster 1 posts) 10y

I've seen cheaper trips at www.transib.net... You can calculate a trip right on the website and if it looks expensive you can cut the numbers of nights etc. E.g. the 21 day trip from Moscow to Beijing was around $1480, and it was for trains, hotels and transfers I believe.