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1. Posted by armstrong1 (Budding Member 25 posts) 8y

I'm planning a month long trip to Europe (give or take a couple days) - right now the dates are July 21-August 20.

I hope to stay in a $4000 budget (including flights) is this possible?

Also, my itinerary right now might need some work. These are the cities I'd love to visit:

....Rothenburg, Lyon, Cinque Terre, anywhere else.

Is there a best route to include some of these cities, and are any of them especially expendable or especially worth the time? I'm thinking of skipping Switzerland and taking a ryanair flight from paris to venice... not sure though.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

2. Posted by armstrong1 (Budding Member 25 posts) 8y

Oh and I'll be backpacking it hopefully with a friend. Though anyone who wants to meet up would be most welcome!

3. Posted by jaxstar84 (Respected Member 415 posts) 8y


is prob the best way to go, i reckon!

i dunno much about bern, ive never been there! but i dont hear about alot of ppl going there... but swiss is pretty much always beautiful! but if youre into mountains, and you say you imght skip swiss, then austria will give you your beautiful scenery fix!

4. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 8y

Bern is a cool town, i really enjoy it. Has a cool vibe and prob the best city in Swiss for architecture and culture.
Brugge is great by why not Brussels? Has a bit better nightlife for your first trip to Europe.

4000 Dollars Inc flights is not possible. These are very expensive cities, esp Paris and Vienna.

Either add another 1000 or go to Eastern Europe.

Im always gna recommend the east anyway - more for ur money. alot of the cities on ur list - Except Berlin! - are very boring places I think, and If you really want a good time on ur first trip places like Budapest, Prague, Krakow, Belgrade, Riga, Tallinn may be a better option.

[ Edit: Edited on Apr 11, 2008, at 9:51 AM by coldwarspy ]

5. Posted by armstrong1 (Budding Member 25 posts) 8y

Thanks guys!

I'll definitely add in Bern then. And I'll have to rethink my budget. I'm thinking of skipping Vienna :( just cause of the costs and heading straight from Venice to Budapest. I almost wonder if Venice is too much trouble as well... Any thoughts?

Here's what I have now - following your arrangement suggestions (coldwar, I'm hoping to journey on to east Europe sometime in the future - it's unknown territory to me really, though. Do you think I should still include prague and budapest here?)

Flight in to Amsterdam
-Brugge (from what I've heard, brussels is sort of a dead city, but then I've never been there)
-Berlin (flight out)

Is this alright? Should I trade Vienna for budapest or just simply take out venice? thanks so much!

6. Posted by jaxstar84 (Respected Member 415 posts) 8y

dont trade budapest!!

7. Posted by armstrong1 (Budding Member 25 posts) 8y

you guys are great! such fast replies!

I'll take your word then and keep it in there. But i think it's possible that I can slip in a 2 day stint in vienna - hopefully without going broke!

8. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 8y

dont get me wrong Vienna is an amazing city, have been several times. But with teh rising cost of th euero vs the dollar, you wll be limited on what you can do and drink! Its really a museum and archietcure city. Great for Klimt and Viennese art from the 19th century. There are some decent bars, one on the side of teh river I f I recall corectly, a rock type bar.

Go to Bratislava instead. Great bars there and 1 euro beers.

Brussels is much more alive than Brugge! Brugge is old tourists running around taking pictures of canals. Its beautiful, but sterile. Well to get to Pars, im quite sure ur train from Brugge wll stop in Brussels, so Id stay for a night atleast. Much better than Brugge I think.

and yeah Venice is ok, very expensive again. But yes Keep Budapest!

9. Posted by jaxstar84 (Respected Member 415 posts) 8y

haha yeah after travelling around western europe for a while, places like brugge do get a bit old... but for a newby they'll love it! im sick of western europe now and am looking forward to getting to more of eastern europe and southern - portugal, croatia... but i think alot of first time travellers gotta get some of the basics outta the way first.. but yeah def head to bratislava, i havent been there, but would love to go and would glady trade vienna for it! so much cheaper, il ove getting more for my money!!

maybe you can check out czesky krumlov in czech republic? its south of prague and ive heard its gorgeous...

10. Posted by oneofsome (Budding Member 3 posts) 8y

If your going to be in Bern or Swiss, then definately take the train to Innsbruck, In the Summer it is one of the nicest cities to visit, and in the winter has some of the best snowboard and ski resorts going, you can fly from innsbruck to Vienna 3 times a day for €29 and it takes only about 45 mins, the trains from all the main cities in Swiss are really efficient and you can get to Innsbruck in just a couple of hours. Do it!