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11. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting jtlande

- I haven't used blogger myself so I couldn't tell you if my friend's choice to go there was the right one, nor do I know if it really behaves any differently.

Was just being harsh. It's really not that bad

Quoting jtlande

- Yeah, outcast was talking about the 'manage' page and having it in sync with the ordering elsewhere...and I had the same struggles as (s)he did with the manage page. The solution you just implemented is, to me, a definite improvement! Now I can understand at a glance how the entries on the manage page is sequenced and can change that order by clicking on the header - I dig it!

Great! I have to say that when I went back and looked at the management area I was quite confused myself. Not sure why we ever sorted differently there?!

Quoting jtlande

- And yes, I was mainly talking about the public display that visitors see. I'll give one of your suggestions a whirl and let you know how they work for me, and if I come up with any other ideas I'll toss them your way.

Let me know how/if they work out. I did have a brain wave a while back on a way of doing this, but it's actually detached from the blog, focused more on the concept of a trip as a separate entity. Could be a great solution though requires a decent amount of work...

12. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

so let me know what you think

Just tried it out. . . stunning stuff sir. Exactly what the doctor ordered! Your little fix took several months of strain from my brow. I can look at the management area and actually appreciated it in blog order. Well done. It even makes me want to go back and enter all those to and from dates... well, maybe ... ;)

I like the sort by country option too, it's nice to isolate a few in the management area and see them in those batches.

How would the Posting Time be effected by this? As in the one displayed on the site itself? Also is there a way to hide/disable that from showing?

Is there a problem with it showing or do you think a lot of people would like to not show it?

Well, let's say someone writes about more than one day in one blog entry. One needs to then manually type in the rest as the first is the published date which is displayed automatically at the blog's entry point. This in itself is a good thing by default. However having an option to disable it would mean someone writing more than one day/date in an entry can manually insert there own dates within the entry. I hope that made sense.

I don't know if it's a big issue with others. But I would imagine anyone writing about about more than one day in an entry is typing in dates and making them bold etc within the entry, yet at the top is an automatically displayed date that may be taking away from the aesthetics of an entry.

I made the mistake of actually thinking it was an option already somewhere. So I as I have been mindlessly typing out of hand written journal I have included the real date on most of the recent entries. Which when I go back to edit and tidy up is not really a problem. But it would be nice just to have an option to turn off the auto date display thing. Leaving just the Weather display.

This is a very minor thing to me, I don't know how many others out there break a single blog into several days with dates and find an auto entry at the start annoying??

Thanks again for the Management work!

13. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

Just tried it out. . . stunning stuff sir. Exactly what the doctor ordered! Your little fix took several months of strain from my brow. I can look at the management area and actually appreciated it in blog order. Well done. It even makes me want to go back and enter all those to and from dates... well, maybe ... ;)

I like the sort by country option too, it's nice to isolate a few in the management area and see them in those batches.

Well, that's always nice to hear: glad it's along the lines of the expected!

Quoting outcast

Well, let's say someone writes about more than one day in one blog entry. One needs to then manually type in the rest as the first is the published date which is displayed automatically at the blog's entry point. This in itself is a good thing by default. However having an option to disable it would mean someone writing more than one day/date in an entry can manually insert there own dates within the entry. I hope that made sense.

I don't know if it's a big issue with others. But I would imagine anyone writing about about more than one day in an entry is typing in dates and making them bold etc within the entry, yet at the top is an automatically displayed date that may be taking away from the aesthetics of an entry.

I made the mistake of actually thinking it was an option already somewhere. So I as I have been mindlessly typing out of hand written journal I have included the real date on most of the recent entries. Which when I go back to edit and tidy up is not really a problem. But it would be nice just to have an option to turn off the auto date display thing. Leaving just the Weather display.

This is a very minor thing to me, I don't know how many others out there break a single blog into several days with dates and find an auto entry at the start annoying??

Ah, I see what you mean. It's not the time at the bottom of the entry (in small letters it says something like 'Posted by XXX Time'), but the date at the top of each entry? Well, good news, that doesn't always show the posting date! If an entry spans a few days, like this one, you'll see that it actually shows that instead of the posting date! In a case like that spanning several days, the small letters at the end of the entry include the date the entry was posted, besides the time mentioned earlier. To get this to show, you need to fill in the 'travel from' and 'travel to' dates though

For an entry that doesn't have travel from and travel to dates specified (like this one), it just defaults back to showing the publish date at the top and in that case only the time underneath the entry.

So it seems like that one was thought through back in the day when 'travel to' and 'travel from' were introduced. What do you think of this as a solution?

On a side note: seeing as you mean those top dates, they can actually also be hidden if you prefer that! Edit your template and include the following rule in it (anywhere should work):

span.entrydate {display:none;}

14. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Yep it was the top date display I was talking about.

I just tried using the from and to on this entry http://outcast.travellerspoint.com/48/Pokhara, back in tourist land, but its nice. I entered in the legit travel date's on the from and to. (Keeping in mind I have been cheating a bit by having everything ordered by manually changing the published date).

The published date is set to 13/1/08, yet it is displaying in the manage section as 12/1/08???? How come? the from and to dates are factual at 21/12/07 - 23/12/07

I also noticed that when gong back to enter in the From and To dates and try to leave the published date blank, your asked to enter something into published date first. This makes sense. But given the query above, it makes it problematic. What do you suggest to put into the published date in a case like this?

15. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

The published date is set to 13/1/08, yet it is displaying in the manage section as 12/1/08???? How come? the from and to dates are factual at 21/12/07 - 23/12/07

I'm seeing the publish date as 12.01.2008 on our pokhara post. Where are you seeing it as 13/1 ?

16. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

In the Manage section.

Pokhara, back in tourist land, but its nice 12.01.2008 Nepal, Round the World outcast published Edit View

I haven't changed it since the last post as I thought it strange that it was not corresponding with what was inputed

17. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

In the Manage section.

Pokhara, back in tourist land, but its nice 12.01.2008 Nepal, Round the World outcast published Edit View

I haven't changed it since the last post as I thought it strange that it was not corresponding with what was inputed

Okay, now you really have me confused. I thought you were seeing it somewhere as 13.01? Both the manage section and the blog are showing 12.01, so that seems right to me

18. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Sorry for the confusion.

The problem I am seeing is that I entered in a published date of 13.01 in the EDIT section of that blog. And it is still there listed as that. And that's what I wanted. Yet everywhere else it is showing as 12.01

19. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

Sorry for the confusion.

The problem I am seeing is that I entered in a published date of 13.01 in the EDIT section of that blog. And it is still there listed as that. And that's what I wanted. Yet everywhere else it is showing as 12.01

Aha, now I understand (bit slow today-kid crying a lot at nights right now...). I think this comes down to a difference in time zones between where the server is located (US West Coast) and the time zone the blog entry was allocated to (by default UTC/GMT). There's about 8-10 hours difference between the two off the top of my head, so if it fell in that period, it would save as 12.01 inside the server, yet show 13.01 on the blog entry. Now why the default actually doesn't match the server time is slightly a riddle to me, so I'll check that with the person that coded that!! In any case, I am pretty sure that ticking the box underneath the posting time and that says "Use Local Time on Blog:" should fix this!

20. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Wow, riddle solved, and makes perfect sense! It had me scratching for a while.

And good luck with the crying kid and thanks again for all the help.

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