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31. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

confession

32. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

.... and more!!!

33. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

Iraq veterans against the WAR

34. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 8y

Quoting kombizz

Quoting Mel.

Quoting kombizz

No my friend!

I did not know that you are Kombizz friend, Magykal.

I knew her since last July in that fancy dress street party in Iraq.
For sure she is curvy with no implant.

Misgendered again.

35. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 8y

Unfortunately, Kombizz, its all true. BUT WE NEED OIL. its a FACT!!!!! We do EVERYTHING to kill our hunger to oil (even lie and lie and lie and lie and lie some more). Hey and lets face it, you are living at the RIGHT side now.

[ Edit: Edited on Jun 21, 2008, at 3:26 AM by wouterrr ]

36. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

"Kombizz, you're in the US. All you have to do is turn on the television and watch any news program, US based or not (I'm guessing you have cable - welcome to America). Every night there is a report of suicide bombers killing scores more people. Sunni killing Shiite and vice versa (oh, and let's not forget the Kurds).

So, since you are so knowledgeable about the Middle East, perhaps you could tell us how these savages are produced. Is it just plain stupidity that causes someone to strap explosives onto their body and willfully kill as many of their countrymen as possible? And what about the people that talk the bombers into bombing in the first place? How does such absolute hatred come about? Is it really all the fault of the Western World? I think not. These "tribes" have despised each other for many hundreds of years. Saddam Hussein, Mistress of the Dark, kept these idiots from killing each other by threat of removing their testicles with pliers. It worked, and now that there is no authoritarian control, they have free reign to start another holocaust.

Oh, wait....I might have missed the whole point!! It must be American troops dressed as extremists who are killing everyone.....duh. And just so we can continue to harvest Iraqi SUV juice. Damn, how stupid I am. Must be because I'm American and could never understand Middle Eastern 10th century thinking."

Post # 14
beerman
USA
Moderator

I wonder where is BeerMan now to ENLIGHTEN all of us, and explain more about hard fact of the above videos (post #25, post #26, post #27, post #28, post #29, and post #30?

37. Posted by kombizz (Full Member 1416 posts) 8y

Quoting wouterrr

Unfortunately, Kombizz, its all true. BUT WE NEED OIL. its a FACT!!!!! We do EVERYTHING to kill our hunger to oil (even lie and lie and lie and lie and lie some more). Hey and lets face it, you are living at the RIGHT side now.

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I allways try to be on the left when I walk to my work.

38. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 8y

Kombizz. Some people are ignorant and see only one side of the story.

39. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 8y

Quoting kombizz

"Kombizz, you're in the US. All you have to do is turn on the television and watch any news program, US based or not (I'm guessing you have cable - welcome to America). Every night there is a report of suicide bombers killing scores more people. Sunni killing Shiite and vice versa (oh, and let's not forget the Kurds).

So, since you are so knowledgeable about the Middle East, perhaps you could tell us how these savages are produced. Is it just plain stupidity that causes someone to strap explosives onto their body and willfully kill as many of their countrymen as possible? And what about the people that talk the bombers into bombing in the first place? How does such absolute hatred come about? Is it really all the fault of the Western World? I think not. These "tribes" have despised each other for many hundreds of years. Saddam Hussein, Mistress of the Dark, kept these idiots from killing each other by threat of removing their testicles with pliers. It worked, and now that there is no authoritarian control, they have free reign to start another holocaust.

Oh, wait....I might have missed the whole point!! It must be American troops dressed as extremists who are killing everyone.....duh. And just so we can continue to harvest Iraqi SUV juice. Damn, how stupid I am. Must be because I'm American and could never understand Middle Eastern 10th century thinking."

Post # 14
beerman
USA
Moderator

I wonder where is BeerMan now to ENLIGHTEN all of us, and explain more about hard fact of the above videos (post #25, post #26, post #27, post #28, post #29, and post #30?

Right here baby......what do you want to discuss? Oh wait, I forgot, you can't seem able to post to discuss these things....you simply put up another link. Do you have an opinion? Can you discuss these issues? Many have asked you to give your opinion, yet you simply ignore them. Why? You seem to be unable to add an opinion to the soup....you simply stir the pot. If any sort of peace is to be made in the world, then all of us, YOU included, have to add to the discussions.

I have an opinion, and I will enlighten you as to what it is......can you do me the same courtesy?

All war is bad. People die, people are killed. This is against the fundamental law of decency. Yes, American soldiers have committed atrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, and they and their superiors who ordered those atrocities should be punished. However, there is a real difference between an atrocity and fighting an enemy intent on killing you. I do not believe that this current war was justified, but I also don't believe that the average soldier has committed atrocities. There are many people in Iraq who openly welcomed the overthrow of Saddam Hussein (remember the scenes of toppled statues of him and the people slapping them with their sandals?) .....no question he was a dictatorial ruler who came to power by murder. The only good thing I can say about him was that he managed to keep the wholesale religious slaughter to a minimum through the use of severe intimidation, but at least the religious killings were lower than they are now. Mind you, the Kurds suffered horribly at his hand and were nearly wiped out, through the use of chemical weapons that the West sold to Hussein to use on Iran during their war. And the West supported the efforts of Hussein to defeat Iran, largely because Iran slapped the US in 1979 and began a crusade to destabilize the entire Middle East on the world stage by re-introducing 10th century fundamentalism. That sort of Islam is not practiced by the majority of muslims in the world (including you, I'm guessing, since you are in America drooling on women), yet Iran seemed bent on bringing fundamentalist Sharia law back. By the way, wouldn't your beloved be executed for wearing makeup under strict Sharia law? Yes, she would, because there ARE women in the world DYING for such a simple thing. And who is doing that killing? Muslim men. I'm not saying that this applies to all muslims, so don't even imagine that. I am NOT ANTI-MUSLIM, I am ANTI-STUPIDITY. And it seems that there is much more muslim-on-muslim violence these days than there is west-on-muslim violence. I repeat that the majority of death in Iraq is being perpetrated by muslim suicide bombers on other muslims. Do they not share the same religion, albeit differing viewpoints on it? Just as the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland have set aside killing each other in favor of dialogue, so must the factions of Islam.

You know, if you were to stand on a street corner in Berkeley and shout that Jesus was a homosexual, I seriously doubt that anyone would more than call you a jerk. If you were to stand on a corner in Tehran and say that Muhammed was a homosexual, you would likely be beheaded on the spot. And that is the thing I do not understand about many muslims: if Islam is the peaceful religion that everyone says it is (and I believe that it can be when practiced by reasonable, intelligent people), then why is it such an affront? Get over it, they are only words!!!! Words cannot hurt you....why are you so afraid of them? Words are the basis for all dialogue, and through dialogue we come to understand each other, and eventually respect each other. But you cannot seem to grasp that concept, for you post no words of your own. I have tried to explain myself and what I believe, but when I am confronted by such ignorance and obstinence, I find myself resorting to sarcasm. Mind you, sarcasm also spurs dialogue, so it may not be such a bad thing.

I think people like you Kombizz are what gives Islam a bad name. You demand respect and give nothing in return. Respect is earned, and you have done nothing to earn what you demand. You constantly point out the evils of the West, yet you cannot look within and see your own foibles. You and your kind are like the spoiled little children that can't play well with others....it's either their way, or no way. The world does not work that way. We have to all play together.

Again, yes, the West has been bad in the Middle East. But the Middle East has been bad to itself. The radical mullahs are no different than any other tyrant in history...."Live by my rule, or die". I don't think so, chump. I'm not pressing my beliefs on you, so keep yours to yourself.

So, is all that clear? Can you give me the respect that I have given you by giving your opinion back? Oh, and can you explain what the Viagra thread is all about?

40. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 8y

Quoting beerman

You know, if you were to stand on a street corner in Berkeley and shout that Jesus was a homosexual, I seriously doubt that anyone would more than call you a jerk. If you were to stand on a corner in Tehran and say that Muhammed was a homosexual, you would likely be beheaded on the spot. And that is the thing I do not understand about many muslims: if Islam is the peaceful religion that everyone says it is (and I believe that it can be when practiced by reasonable, intelligent people), then why is it such an affront? Get over it, they are only words!!!! Words cannot hurt you....why are you so afraid of them? Words are the basis for all dialogue, and through dialogue we come to understand each other, and eventually respect each other.

Very well said Beerman, I don't always agree with you, but you hit the topic in its heart here. I hope it is a matter of development. Some, but probably most, funda(mental) muslims still live in the (for us) middle ages. 500 years ago we also didn't allow blasphemy, it was punished with the rope or the stake. Some economical development and prosperity without war will hopefully make people less fanatic also in the muslim world.