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More Eurorail advice needed please!

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1. Posted by Miss Anh (Budding Member 4 posts) 8y

Hi all,
I'd like some advice from you seasoned travelers on whether the Eurorail (Youth) option is the best for this type of travel. I don't mind whether I take a bus/couch or train if there are point to point alternatives, but probably would like to avoid planes. Basically, I am after the best value for money, since time is not an issue, and I'd be interested in seeing the countryside anyway. ;)

I am intending to do something like this:
Paris -> Schwabisch Gmund/Stuttgart --> Berlin --> Copenhagen --> Stockholm --> Helsinki (probably ferry over?)

Thanks in advance! :)

2. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 8y

Provided they're available for youth, your cheapest option for that route appears to be a Select Pass for France, Germany and Denmark. These start at USD305; now you have to check whether loose tickets work out cheaper (hint: they don't).

3. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 8y

Paris -> Schwabisch Gmund/Stuttgart --> Berlin --> Copenhagen

About 180 USD with individual tickets.

Paris-Stuttgart has a TGV running twice a day, book way in advance for the special. See http://www.tgv-europe.com

Stuttgart-Berlin can be had for 29 EUR if you book in advance online. If the special cannot be had, ypu can use Happy Weekend Ticket (slow travel on local trains on weekends) for 35 EUR. http://www.bahn.de

Berlin-Copenhagen is cheapest by flights. http://www.skyscanner.net Alternatively there is bus. http://www.berlinlinienbus.de

4. Posted by Miss Anh (Budding Member 4 posts) 8y

Yah, I have heard too that you need to research which trains are included in the Eurorail pass regardless.
Appreciate the replies, thanks!

5. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 8y

Quoting t_maia

Paris -> Schwabisch Gmund/Stuttgart --> Berlin --> Copenhagen

About 180 USD with individual tickets.

That cheap??!! Boy, you run better searches than I do, Maia :)

6. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 8y

No, just know my country very well. Plus I have neither car nor driver's license, so public transport is a way of life. When you have to pay 100 EUR to get across the country to the Ryanair airport to catch a 7 EUR flight you start looking at all options of getting around on the cheap.

BTW, Stuttgart-Berlin is sometimes also best done by flight, especially when you travel with carry-on luggage only and can do the check-in online.

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8. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 8y

In reply to the previous poster: I had a quick look around on that page, and most of it just seems totally incorrect as far as Europe goes.

[ Edit: just a note to let everyone know that the 'previous poster' has had the post removed. ]

9. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 8y

I have to agree with Bentivogli that some of the Europe info looks wildly (laughably) inaccurate on that weblink.

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As to the original question...

And assuming you have time in advance (i plonked in a random mid June date), and just using trains - and these are all fast trains - you can do Paris-Schwabisch Gmund; SCh-G to Berlin; Berlin-Copenhagen for about 150USD (97euros).

Thus...

These start at USD305; now you have to check whether loose tickets work out cheaper (hint: they don't).

i beg to differ...

The only downside is that you have to use the specific train that you have booked, but....

I can then get you from Copenhagen to Stockholm for 40euros (65usd) though there are some cheaper trains on other days. There are also cheap flights on this trip, but the airport transfer in Stockholm kills the savings. The cheapest ferry to helsinki is 27euros (though that is without a cabin).

So Paris-Helsinki via all 4 places you want to visit for 250USD, or 165euros (including all reservations etc), by train and boat.

There are also often some very good coach deals which will bring some/all of your routes down cheaper. If you are short of time flights may be more of an option, but city to city, they often work out more expensive

[ Edit: Edited on May 28, 2008, at 9:46 AM by Gelli ]

10. Posted by Miss Anh (Budding Member 4 posts) 8y

This is all good information (even the misleading ones!!) - just provokes more research....;)
Looks like if I can more or less key in dates with the trains, then the Eurorail pass is far more expensive (what a premium!)

Gelli - can you let me know which website/s you used? www.raileurope.com?

Thanks again!