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Search Engines and the TP blogs

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1. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Hi folks

Just wondering if someone out there could educate me on how search engines like google and yahoo read or understand our blogs.

Monitoring through Analytics I find the thing quite structure and understandable

However when I do a direct search for a direct link within my blog it sometimes does and sometimes does not show up??

Here's an example:

I have a blog titled The Riots in Lhasa. It use to be that when I typed this into google it came up in the top 3. I entered in the post on the day of the riots and it stayed there ever since. Just last week I finally caught up a little and added more to the post, and change the title to The Riots in Lhasa Part I as I split it into two enteries.

One week later and neither The Riots in Lhasa nor The Riots in Lhasa Part I show up until well down the list. So I figured it was a chronological listing, as for sure it's not a major hit site (for good reason, my blog that is), so that's why the entry slide down and the new ones were far down the list.

Now today I went back to my little experiment in kind, and googled The Riots in Lhasa Part I again. Nothing . I did the same on Yahoo, and then The Riots in Lhasa Part II showed up as number one on the list when I typed in The Riots in Lhasa Part I?????

I really don't get the logic behind search engines, I thought I did until now. But this has thrown me off.

Sorry if this is a little of topic, but its got me flummoxed

2. Posted by Peter (Admin 5807 posts) 8y

Search engines are a confusing beast. They certainly are not consistent in which pages they decide are most relevant. In your case, my guess would be as follows.

  • Your blog entry was initially boosted to the top as part of what is known as the "fresh" filter. Google will often show blog posts high just after they are posted. The fact that yours stayed there for what seems like a bit longer though is interesting.
  • Splitting your entry over two posts, means that you were probably mentioning the words "riots" and "lhasa" less often on the page. This in turn leads the search engines to believe it is less relevant.

These would be plausible reasons, but something else is going on, which in fact suggests that maybe Google has not picked up on the new entries yet (and removed the old one for some reason). When you do a search for "Riots in Lhasa Part I" (with quotes - because that searches for an EXACT match) it doesn't even bring up the entries as a result. That indicates that the page is in fact not even in Google's index.

This usually indicates that Google just isn't crawling your blog enough. To fix this, you need to get some more links into your blog. Google's spider follows links online to index things. No links to your site - no spider. Few links to your site, fewer spiders. One easy link to add would be from your Travellerspoint profile. I think that would even be enough to get some good spidering going on, as your profile is itself linked to from quite a few places on Travellerspoint.

Unfortunately there are no clear cut answers - but I hope that at least gives you some ideas.

3. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Peter, thanks very much for the education on search engines! I get the whole picture a bit better now, and it makes better sense.

I tied google again just now as you did, and got the same results as you.

Yet when I tried the The Riots in Lhasa Part I on Yahoo just now with out "" and it came up number one. With the "" and two different blog entries of mine showed up alone, but not the The Riots in Lhasa Part I entry.

I am guessing this is because Google and Yahoo are use different ways to cache data?

Anyway, I am not looking to be the number one blog on the net. I was just curious after emailing someone and telling them just to google The Riots in Lhasa Part I. I guess I will have to tell them to Yahoo it instead

4. Posted by Peter (Admin 5807 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

Yet when I tried the The Riots in Lhasa Part I on Yahoo just now with out "" and it came up number one. With the "" and two different blog entries of mine showed up alone, but not the The Riots in Lhasa Part I entry.

Hmm, tried that too and I get the part 2 entry showing up in both. The part 1 entry doesn't appear to be indexed by Yahoo either if you ask me.

I am guessing this is because Google and Yahoo are use different ways to cache data?

Well, they have their own crawlers and definitely do things slightly differently. It depends on the query which one is going to give the best results.

I guess I will have to tell them to Yahoo it instead


Hehe, that may indeed be the best solution