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Quotation marks in blog

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1. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Does anyone know how to get these types of “” quotation marks in a blog?

“Quotation”

rather than this type

"Quotation"

I copied and pasted the first kind from a word processor with, their known as curly quotes.

Erm, and for anyone wondering why, well, I just think they look nicer when there are lots of quotes in a blog!

Any help much appreciated!

2. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

A word processor is an advanced software where it can recognise when the quotation mark should be open or close, and it will automatically change it to that. In a plain textbox environment like on TP and most websites, the single and double quotation mark keys (' and ") on the keyboard produce just that--plain single/double quotation marks. It will not change it to open or close quotation marks like MS Word does.

[ Edit: Edited on Jun 13, 2008, at 3:28 PM by Hien ]

3. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Thanks for the reply. I was thinking that it was just a code from a WP that translated to what TP uses. But as I was able to disable it and enable it there. I was hoping it was possible to do the same here. Looks not :(

I wonder why it shows up when I paste it in though?

4. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

Technically, they are three different keys.

" quotation mark
“ open double quotation mark
” close double quotation mark

Our standard keyboard has limited keys, so they decided to have only the straight quotation mark which can be used for both open and close instead of wasting another key which can be used for another punctuation mark or symbol.

What I meant by plain textbox in my previous post is that what appears on the textbox is exactly what's on your keyboard. If you have the open and close quotation mark keys on the keyboard, they will appear on the plain textbox as well. In a word processor, what you typed is a straight quotation mark, but the software changed it to open/close quotation mark according to the sentence. What you copied and then pasted on TP, eventhough a plain textbox, had already been changed. So you actually pasted a modified input.

Sounds a bit technical. I hope I explained it clearly enough. :)

5. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Thanks for the explanation Hien.

So do you think it's possible to run something like a Macro on my system that would change the quotation to the curly kind? If a WP can do it, and it can be pasted into a blog then I am thinking it should be possible?

Sorry for the persistence on this, but I when put the blog onto a document it looks a lot better with curly quotations, and while I can do a find and replace, it's only working to change an open curly, and not close it. So it means several hours, or days of tedious work And the prospect of continuing on without curly's or least having to change them all later is painful!

6. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 8y

Let me add my explanation as well.

What word processors often have is a feature called "Smart-quotes" (I think that's what it's called). Essentially, when you type in a regular quote ("), it automatically checks if it would have been better as an open or closing quote and will automatically replace it with that character. Our text-entry form is fairly basic and doesn't attempt to do anything as clever as that. The way I see it, that would be fairly minimal benefit for extra processing, programming & loading time.

You probably can actually type those characters with some sort of key-combination. On Macs it is as follows:

  • Option+ { = “
  • Shift + Option + { = ”

If you really want to make it possible, I'm thinking that there probably is a Firefox Add-On that can do this for you - perhaps this one here: Smart Firefox (it's a Greasmonkey script, so you will need to also install Greasemonkey). It could cause some other issues mind you, but worth a try if you are really keen for this to happen

7. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Thanks Peter.

I did some routing around and found MS version of the Mac code. It needs to be done with Num Lock on.

Double quotes: Alt-0147 (left); Alt-0148 (right)
Single quotes: Alt-0145 (left); Alt-0146 (right)

Hmmmm, I can just see myself going through this routine every time I want to write a quotation mark!

I will try the Smart Firefox add on soon. I am finally getting the opportunity to switch back to Ubuntu soon, so I can use Firefox to my liking then.

In the mean time "Thank you" :)