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1. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

What a wally I iz.
Totally organised my september Croatia trip which end in Dubrovnik but then find out that there aren't any flights from there to Athens, and I gotta be there for my flight home to Perth.
Anyone know how long to do this overland?
I've been quoted $500USD to fly Dub-Rome-Athens.

Serves me right for making assumptas.

Anthony

2. Posted by europhile (Budding Member 6 posts) 8y

DUBROVNIK TO ATHENS

No, you're no wally. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard of folk doing exactly this. Getting to Dubrovnik and then finding there is no way on to Greece. But there is... via Albania of course. No, but I know you want to fly. This too is easy, and you could do it for about €200 to €220.

From Dubrovnik, continue south to Tivat airport, which is 55 km beyond Dubrovnik airport. Tivat is in Montenegro, and it has two great things going for it:

1. Superb scenery around, so allow a day to explore the Bay of Kotor area of Montenegro.
2. Lots of useful flights that complement the sometimes poor connections from Dubrovnik.

From Tivat, both JAT and Montenegro Airlines fly to Belgrade. It's a short hop, about an hour, and is very cheap. Usually €58 with JAT, but I think possibly even cheaper with Montenegro Airlines. I've used JAT. Between them the two airlines fly between 8 and 13 times daily from Tivat to Belgrade (depending on day or week).

From Belgrade both JAT and Olympic fly non-stop to Athens. Flights at least twice daily. Usually about €150 one way including all taxes.

In my experience, it is often cheaper to buy the two tickets separately (ie. Tivat to BEG, then BEG to Athens), but you may wish to check that. Book well in advance, and you might well be able to undercut my estimate of €200 to €220.

Hope this helps.
Nicky

[ Edit: Sorry, no promos please. ]

3. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 8y

Don't know about prices, but the options to travel by plane directly to Athens are limited to Tirana in Albania (with Aegean Airlines, Olympic and Albanian Airlines) or Belgrade (Olympic again).
Overland takes 2 days, but as it involves some changes of buses (or trains) you might face 3 days as well. Tirana - Athens for example should take 16 hours.

4. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Quoting europhile

DUBROVNIK TO ATHENS

No, you're no wally. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard of folk doing exactly this. Getting to Dubrovnik and then finding there is no way on to Greece. But there is... via Albania of course. No, but I know you want to fly. This too is easy, and you could do it for about €200 to €220.

From Dubrovnik, continue south to Tivat airport, which is 55 km beyond Dubrovnik airport. Tivat is in Montenegro, and it has two great things going for it:

1. Superb scenery around, so allow a day to explore the Bay of Kotor area of Montenegro.
2. Lots of useful flights that complement the sometimes poor connections from Dubrovnik.

From Tivat, both JAT and Montenegro Airlines fly to Belgrade. It's a short hop, about an hour, and is very cheap. Usually €58 with JAT, but I think possibly even cheaper with Montenegro Airlines. I've used JAT. Between them the two airlines fly between 8 and 13 times daily from Tivat to Belgrade (depending on day or week).

From Belgrade both JAT and Olympic fly non-stop to Athens. Flights at least twice daily. Usually about €150 one way including all taxes.

In my experience, it is often cheaper to buy the two tickets separately (ie. Tivat to BEG, then BEG to Athens), but you may wish to check that. Book well in advance, and you might well be able to undercut my estimate of €200 to €220.

Hope this helps.
Nicky

Nicky,
That was one helluva info post and I have copied that to my travel tip directory for future use.
Went to my travel agent today who priced Dub-Belgrade-Athens as $800 USD per person (JAT and Olympic).
I could probably do much better price-wise when I get there but I have a very limited time window so went for Dub-Rome-Athens.
Anyways, I reckon I'll be back in the area (Croatia/Montenegro/Albania/Greece) for 4-5 weeks in 2010 so your help is really appreciated.
Thanks mate.

Anthony

P.S. I could have a week in Bali (airfares and nice hotel included) for the same cost as JAT and Olympic??

[ Edit: Edited on Jun 30, 2008, at 7:35 AM by wotthefiqh ]

5. Posted by Buttfish (Respected Member 298 posts) 8y

if flights are too much, a horrible bus and an overnight train may do the trick. sort of. maybe check it out? there is a bus from split to belgrade (and has to be one from dubrovnik, since it's a well known city - needs perusing). and a train from beglrade to thessaloniki. this is ancient knowledge (i went with my dad 5 years ago), but the prices should still be more or less cheapish. that's the only thing i could think of. unless there was a way of hopping to and taking a ferry.

6. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Thanks for the reply Latarina.
Unfortunately I have pencilled in leaving Dubrovnik on Sept 10th and departing Athens Sept 12th.
If I had the time I would love to slowly bus/train the Balkans through to Thessaloniki (sold a pint of my blood there back in 1971 which fed me as I hitchhiked home to Scotland) and Athens but work (the orifice) calls.
I've been to Athens about 8 times and I need at least one full day to do one of my favourite cities justice.
Nothing much to look at really till you walk around Omonia Square, look down Athinas Street and see the Acropolis.
That always takes my breath away.
And I've never even been to the National Museum yet???

So much to do, so little money

Anthony

7. Posted by europhile (Budding Member 6 posts) 8y

whathefiq: that was so very thoughtful of you to return and comment on my post of 29th Jun advising you on possible routes from Dubrovnik to Athens. I suggested using Tivat (another airport just 55 km beyond Dubrovnik Airport on the coast) to Athens using Montenegro Airlines and / or JAT and / or Olympic. I find it very interesting that your travel agent checked out the JAT routes and came back with a price of 800 US Dollars single. As a travel writer based in Europe, and travelling frequently in SE Europe, I have very often noticed that non-European travel agents very consistently overprice flights, offering unsuspecting visitors from North America and Australasia vastly inflated fares, often claiming that nothing cheaper is available. This is I think is because non-European agents book their clients fully flexible business class tickets (on which the agent receives a decent commission). On some discount fares, the agent commission may be zero.

So I took the liberty of checking that route myself for a hypothetical journey in the first two weeks of September, first checking JAT. There are plenty of flight options available at €191 one way including all fees and taxes. On three dates in that two week period, I found options below €170 one way.

I think the lesson here I that it definitely pays to check directly with these less well known airlines - check their websites, call their European booking telephone numbers, etc.

I must confess to not knowing the Travellers Point community, but one of my colleagues here at hidden europe magazine drew my attention to your enquiry as one which I could very easily provide a few thoughts. I was a shade surprised therefore to find my comments 'edited' by someone else, presumably a moderator, who evidently took exception to my having included my affiliation in my signature. I did that on the basis that you watthefiq could easily contact me if you so wanted, and also just to give a sense that my comments came with some measure of real knowledge about this particular topic. It seems to me that if websites like this want travel professionals to help them by adding user-generated content, they might extend to those contributors the courtesy of allowing them to say who they are. Anonymous advice, it seems to me, must always be viewd with pinch of salt. I should emphasise that I have no financial interest in the airlines I mentioned. I am merely a Berlin-based travel writer who happens to love the Balkans and really keep in touch with aviation issues.

With every good wish
Nicky

8. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 8y

Quoting europhile

I must confess to not knowing the Travellers Point community, but one of my colleagues here at hidden europe magazine drew my attention to your enquiry as one which I could very easily provide a few thoughts. I was a shade surprised therefore to find my comments 'edited' by someone else, presumably a moderator, who evidently took exception to my having included my affiliation in my signature. I did that on the basis that you watthefiq could easily contact me if you so wanted, and also just to give a sense that my comments came with some measure of real knowledge about this particular topic. It seems to me that if websites like this want travel professionals to help them by adding user-generated content, they might extend to those contributors the courtesy of allowing them to say who they are. Anonymous advice, it seems to me, must always be viewd with pinch of salt. I should emphasise that I have no financial interest in the airlines I mentioned. I am merely a Berlin-based travel writer who happens to love the Balkans and really keep in touch with aviation issues.

Hi Nikki,

I was the one who edited your original post to remove the promo. Our policy here has always been that promos, regardless of what they are for, get removed (personal blogs, Lonely Planet, competitors, CNN, gambling all get the same treatment). It makes life very easy for moderators and admin who otherwise have to act as a judge to the quality of the advice being given before deciding whether or not the link/signature can or should remain. Becoming a judge like that is not a role I think anyone cherishes. Most quality forums that I visit also have a similar policy. The downside is cases like yours where the post is really good but the policy comes across as harsh.

I appreciate what you are saying about anonymous advice which is why our profile pages are so important. I think most users are more likely to trust someone that has provided solid advice before or from whose profile you can see has travelled to the destination you are asking about. The profile is also a good place to show the community who you are/where you work etc. For members that have provided great content a link becomes active on their profile in addition.

Hope that clarifies the reason for the edit and that you can see where we're coming from.

Cheers,

Sam

9. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 8y

Quoting europhile

whathefiq: that was so very thoughtful of you to return and comment on my post of 29th Jun advising you on possible routes from Dubrovnik to Athens.
Nicky

europhile: I try my best to thank fellow TP members when they give me good info and yours has been saved to my Travel Tips directory for future reference.
Thanks a lot for that.
As for the editing of moderators, I reckon they do a pretty good job and it's something I certainly wouldn't want to do.

Anthony

10. Posted by europhile (Budding Member 6 posts) 8y

Thanks Sam and Anthony for your good comments.
Nicky