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1. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Hi Guys,

Last week I wrote and saved to drafts, "Nomads, Wanderers, Exiles and of course Outcast's Part 3"

I set it to a future date of publishing (11/8), curious to see if this would publish without me manually clicking the button. . Now, not realizing it would not get published, as it was in draft format, on the day I changed the time stamp to UTC --- and clicked publish, still ahead of time.

I headed out and later that night I saw it had been just published. Yea, it works. Now being a bit of an idiot I went and changed the name of the recent articles I am doing. So the above became "Great Modern Travelers, Part 3 - Jonny Bealby". I checked the latest updated blog entries on the front page to see if the change had happened there. Only to find neither entry listed???

Just wondering what do you think happened?

One of the reasons I am asking is that I was hoping to set a few these articles up in advance so I can work on some other things without worrying to much about them. Hence I have been poking around with them a bit.

The other is that I plan to publish some more back dated regular blogs from my time in Portugal and Morocco. I did an experiment on them a few weeks ago to see if even when set in the past they still popped up or not. Can't remember my own findings now, but they did. Just don't remember if they appeared back in time on my blog or not.
Anyway that's a little beside the point. My main query is the first about why it did not appear on TP latest updated blogs?

Sorry for the long winded post

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 11, 2008, at 9:06 PM by outcast ]

2. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Ok now I am confused. I set the following post "Great Modern Travelers, Part 4 - Ted Simon (16.07.2008)" to future date publishing last week. It posted automatically at 8.00am UTC. But yet again today it did not show up on the most recent blogs on TP??? Yet it's there in the educational section as recent!

I don't get it? Anyone?

3. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 8y

Quoting outcast

Ok now I am confused. I set the following post "Great Modern Travelers, Part 4 - Ted Simon (16.07.2008)" to future date publishing last week. It posted automatically at 8.00am UTC. But yet again today it did not show up on the most recent blogs on TP??? Yet it's there in the educational section as recent!

I don't get it? Anyone?

Hmm, it's possible the latest blog page doesn't look at the same date. I'll have to look into this in more detail.

4. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Thanks again Peter!

I would appreciate any help there. I am planning to go back over some events in the past I never posted when I had just joined. It's not a massive thing, but it seemed like a bug issue. It also had be wondering if they actually go out as I am setting some up for weekly postings ahead of time and I am paranoid by nature

5. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 8y

Sorry, just so I am clear what is being discussed (because I think it might be handy for me as well), if I put in a date and time in the future in the POSTING TIME field and click Publish, the blog entry will not publish until that time?

Thanks,
Greg

6. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Yep thats right Greg. I am using it for those articles on Great travellers I am doing. I have a list of them all set up to publish at one week intervals, while I work on other things . Its seriously useful in that sense. Do your research, prepare, auto publish later.

The only thing is that they are not showing up as recently published on TP, but they are showing up in the category you put them in. Kind alike playing with a history that never happened

They used to show up as newly published as the first one I did showed up, but something changed since then.

7. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 8y

Interesting.

In case it helps in debugging, I am subscribed via RSS to outcast's blog, and I am seeing the blog entries show up in my RSS feed when they are posted, so that park seems to be working.

8. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Ok, here's an update that might help. I just manually published "In search of Knights & Legends in the Heart of Portugal" which I gave a published date to of 30.04.2007 as it was set in the past. It appeared in Updated Travel Blogs straight away. So back dated entries manually published are appearing in recent posts.

Now going back to my original post I have set a future publishing date of 2008-07-22 08:00 UTC for my "Great Modern Travelers, Part 5" to be published. So let's see if that shows up in Updated Travel Blogs?!

I also noticed this is/was an issue in WordPress too at one stage. People were saying future publishing dates when auto released were not showing up as Updated Posts.

Anyway just thought this might help in finding an answer!

9. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Yep, same problem about future date publishing exists. My article Great Modern Travelers, Part 5 was set to be published 008-07-22 08:00 UTC since a few weeks ago. It went live 30 mins ago.

It's appearing on RSS like Greg said but nothing on latest blogs :( as if it never happened

10. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 8y

Ok, just had a closer look at this. To be honest, I'm not sure there is much we can do.

What happens is that on the main blogs page, the sorting is done by the real publish date - something that can't be edited by the user. That date is recorded as soon as you hit publish, even though the entry isn't live yet.

On the blogs, sorting is done by the entry date that the user can edit.

If we were to make the blogs page sort by the user-editable date, this would open up the possibility for users to continually edit the date and ensure their entry shows on the main page for longer than it should. Ok, maybe an obscure possibility, but a potential problem nonetheless.

The alternative is to set up a new system that ensures the entry isn't immediately recorded published, but rather will be put into some sort of queue that then relies on a script to check whether it is ready to go live. Unfortunately, that's a more time consuming fix to make requiring some serious reshuffling of how things are done. I'm not sure the benefit outweighs the effort..